I’m trying to clear my desktop of all kinds of saved files, and in this case, we can thank Samm JaCrispy Johnson (who later dropped the JaCrispy bit), a line cook at the Rt 93 Hookset rest stop at the time (didn’t even live in town).
She came in, all blazing, and stirring up a town that, for the most part, got along with everyone else. Got everyone riled up and succeeded in getting someone fired from Fay’s Boat Yard simply because, upon seeing a Black Lives Matter sign right across from his house, stated on Facebook that he was tired of all the politics when all he wanted to do was take a peaceful walk.
And yet, having proclaimed herself to be the tolerant one, pulled out the “anyone who DARE disagrees with Black Lives Matter is a RAACIST” card (guess she’s all butthurt that as an Obama type organizer, she didn’t get the million-dollar houses like self-proclaimed Marxist organizer Patrisse Cullors has). ANYWAYS…
Here’s a snippet from the Gilford Community FB page where you can see that folks that normally would be rather friendly to each other went to war instead. One of Marxism tools is to be divisive and BLM seized upon Race as being that wedge – and divided the town quite easily. Sad, that.
Now, I’ve abstracted a long, Long, LOONG part of it but I have no intentions of serializing it – I want it one and done and be rid of it. But I do think, even after not quite a year, that some of the techniques that BLM supporters (those either superficial level or the true believers) used against those just want to be either left alone or are tired of being accused of major malfeasance simply because of the color of their skin. And I replied back to counter those arguments (or rather, the lack thereof) as well as a few others that are tired of this. While I can’t find Part 1, you can see Parts 2,3, and 4 here, here, and here. Some of the below is in those posts but this is just straight on from the FB page. And yes, it is almost “pamphlet long” but with summer coming back, I’m betting this is going to be coming back as a thing as well; JaCrispy has already asked about doing a redo when the weather got warmer (and here we are!).
Again, note the “tolerance” and “inclusion” as espoused by those on the Left and how they’ve redefined it as “only if you agree with us are you tolerated and included: all others are HELLFIRE AND DAMNATION doomed”. You know, the typical fare from those on the Left…I’ve bolded my name to make it easier to catch what I said.
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Amber LaTorre Sickening. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people in this community that feel this way. Those of us that support BLM need to speak up and speak out. We need to drown out these messages of hate with support and ❤️. We cannot let voices like this speak for our community.
Skip Murphy So only ONE opinion on this topic is allowed – any others are no longer allowed? This nation was built on the notion that Free Speech was always to be respected – even if it is speech you don’t happen to like or appreciated.
Nice to see that the Cancel Movement has arrived in Gilford.
Patrick Gale We’re you guys not around for the whole trans bathroom school thing? Gilford is ??? when it comes to being accepting as far as I can tell
Amber LaTorre Patrick Gale agreed. I’m hoping we can change that if people start speaking up.
Skip Murphy So diversity is fine when it comes to skin color and gender but no diversity of thought?
Lynda Brooks I wouldn’t be inviting Bill & Sally over any time soon!
Skip Murphy Not even to learn and better understand how they feel about this? While they may not have been all that tactful (as someone DM’d me said), all I see is that they just don’t want politics in their face where ever they go. That’s now a bad thing?
Lynda Brooks Skip Murphy nope… it’s pretty clear how they feel with their bigotry on display… my time would be better spent around positive people who want to right a wrong in our society rather than whine about being inconvenienced by it. I don’t want politics in my face either, but Sally is probably a Karen who would call police on someone for simply existing. It’s nice to have the option not to have politics in your face, but some people are constantly walking on eggshells or looking over their shoulder because of people like Bill & Sally, and they don’t have the luxury of walking away from it like Bill & Sally can. That’s a bad thing.
Skip Murphy Lynda Brooks It seems that most here believe they are racists. My take on this, however inartfully they spoke or acted, is that there is a large contingent of folks who just don’t want politics in their lives 24×7 and they may well be part of that. I know, being a political blogger, that there are times escaping from it is necessary.
Not being allowed to because of the culture we’ve become can breed a lot of resentment. There is such a [virtual] idea of “The Coalition of the Just Leave me alone”. A nicer way of putting “Get off my lawn!”.
Skip Murphy Many DO walk on eggshells – you are very right about that. There is also the reverse; those that do not hold to the pop culture of the moment and live in fear of saying something wrong at the wrong moment and then getting slammed for it. I see it all the time.
And resentment is building over it all. This case is classic. Add in the efforts to bring in the Politics of Personal Destruction by demanding that Fay’s Boat Yard fire him adds to that.
No matter how you feel about his opinion, is it right to economically ruin someone else’s opinion? Is this the kind of Society we want?
The CTO of Mozilla, the open source maker of email and a browser, was kicked out of his job simply because he gave a donation to the group that was backing traditional marriage in California EIGHT YEARS BEFORE he became CEO. Gay marriage proponents got him fired over it. He was ruined financially and left destitute for several years.
Again, is this how our Society is to behave? No longer discussing opinions and believes but to literally kick them to the curb?
Marie Savasta Dalzell This sickens me. Good thing they sold the restaurant [the Bickfords who are the subject to the BLM “tolerance and inclusion” and got driven out of town -Skip] because I bet many would boycott it. I think Chloe should hold a sign right by their house…I’ll pull up a chair
Jane Brogan Marie Savasta Dalzell I would not support their business if they still owned it.
Skip Murphy Jane Brogan So as I read through this thread, I keep seeing the theme that ‘we all should be together” – how would your not eating there match up with “all together? It seems to be more Othering than not.
Jane Brogan Skip it doesn’t relate at all to all together. I simply would not support a business with that mindset.
Marie Savasta Dalzell Skip Murphy I would choose to spend my money elsewhere. I don’t support his views, views that I think are pretty disgusting, and would dine at other establishments.
Skip Murphy So boycotting a business is now just simple politics? Am I understanding this right?
Lola Smith I am just so sad reading this! I thought I would never see the day of Gilford residents going back and forth on this. I will say nothing except yes Black Lives Matter and so do White. Yellow , Beige, Brown and on and on. I don’t feel politics have anything to do what is in our hearts. I love Republicans and Democrats! I do know when we bleed ? that we all bleed red. ♥️♥️♥️ also since we all pay taxes in Gilford I think we are allowed to put signs on our lawns unless they have vulgar language or swearing on them ??? Are we not ????
Jimmy Hi Harry Mathews Lola Smith it’s social media. Society as a whole has major issues and always will. You just hope those issues can be resolved in a polite peaceful manner, but when you have this forum of Social Media it turns into chaos. I have said it a million times, Social Media will destroy this world. Oh and here I am typing away on it .
Lola Smith Jimmy Hi Harry Mathews yes you are lol ? I understand what u r saying !!! I’m old enough to know better! Way to OLD! Have a nice weekend.
Jimmy Hi Harry Mathews Lola Smith first FB destroyed Marriages by connecting High School Sweethearts back together, then it was used to dictate politics, now it’s at the center of an issue that is so big, the world will just go mad. Just like the Joker Movie. I hope everyone up here in Gods Country can stop and take a breath.
Lola Smith Jimmy Hi Harry Mathews u can say I prayer on that??? I have seen so much in my lifetime that nothing surprises me really. But, I was shocked to see this!! I wonder if they have many friends after being so brazen to put those remarks out?? Sometime…See More
Kristine Conway Burns Lola Smith he sounds like Archie Bunker. It’s 2020, get with the times “BillSally”
Lola Smith Kristine Conway Burns u r sooo funny !!! That’s a good one though ! Archie Bunker ?. I will be laughing all nite !! Wow to funny yep he is an Archie for sure !!! Look at his Facebook page u will laugh with Sally’s cooking ?????
Skip Murphy Lola Smith There is nothing wrong on getting on a soapbox. What IS wrong is some people trying to take that soapbox away from others simply because of political leanings.
I don’t know Sally or Bill Bickford but they are entitled to an opinion. Just like most of the people here who are of the opposite opinion.
When expressing an out-of-favor opinion and then the Cancel Movement starts moving in on them, that is a sure sign that our Society is VERY unhealthy.
Lola Smith I’m older and yes you can school me if you would like. I don’t mind your opinion. Yes , you can say whatever you would like. But, there is No reason for a so called adult older man and his older wife to speak to an impressionable young girl the way they did. If you have to hide something and sneak it off Facebook than maybe you should have not said it in the first place. Believe me I’m old enough to know better…. to old . Thanks for your opinion on this though. You know mine. Have a nice day it’s beautiful ! Good thing that was not my daughter or granddaughter that he said that to! She has a wonderful Mother and cousin. He was definitely out of favor as you would like to say. I just have another word for what he said. No need for me to say it though. I know what to say and not “ I think “ on Facebook! I don’t need a soapbox to speak.
Skip Murphy Jimmy Hi Harry Mathews Everyone is entitled to have an opinion – I’d tell you to keep talking and talking and talking. SILENCING people is wrong simply because they hold opinions contrary to your own or others.
We seem to have forgotten is important precept that girds our Republic.
Lynda Brooks I wouldn’t be inviting Bill & Sally over any time soon!
Skip Murphy Not even to learn and better understand how they feel about this? While they may not have been all that tactful (as someone DM’d me said), all I see is that they just don’t want politics in their face where ever they go. That’s now a bad thing?
Lynda Brooks Skip Murphy nope… it’s pretty clear how they feel with their bigotry on display… my time would be better spent around positive people who want to right a wrong in our society rather than whine about being inconvenienced by it. I don’t want politics…See More
Skip Murphy Lynda Brooks It seems that most here believe they are racists. My take on this, however inartfully they spoke or acted, is that there is a large contingent of folks who just don’t want politics in their lives 24×7 and they may well be part of that. I k…See More
Skip Murphy Many DO walk on eggshells – you are very right about that. There is also the reverse; those that do not hold to the pop culture of the moment and live in fear of saying something wrong at the wrong moment and then getting slammed for it. I see it all the time.
And resentment is building over it all. This case is classic. Add in the efforts to bring in the Politics of Personal Destruction by demanding that Fay’s Boat Yard fire him adds to that.
No matter how you feel about his opinion, is it right to economically ruin someone else’s opinion? Is this the kind of Society we want?
The CTO of Mozilla, the open source maker of email and a browser, was kicked out of his job simply because he gave a donation to the group that was backing traditional marriage in California EIGHT YEARS BEFORE he became CEO. Gay marriage proponents got him fired over it. He was ruined financially and left destitute for several years.
Again, is this how our Society is to behave? No longer discussing opinions and believes but to literally kick them to the curb?
Jane Brogan Good for Fay’s for stepping up!
Skip Murphy Jane Brogan Should everyone’s employer get involved in every employee’s private life? First this – then what’s next? The Slippery Slope theory exists…
Skip Murphy Jane Brogan WHY should their employer be brought into this? Or is this now morphing into the politics of personal destruction – hold an opinion contrary to your so they must be economically ruined?
Skip Murphy Should not our ire be turned on those that glorify the Politics of Personal Destruction and turning their lives inside-out and seek to get people fired? This isn’t just about the Bickfords – this is a pattern I am seeing more and more. We are at a tipping point.
Nelle Douville Tatianna things that just should not be.
Diversity should be our most celebrated and greatest strength.
Remember how we were taught America was a ‘melting pot’?
Sure seems like we fight it at every turn.
Skip Murphy Nelle Douville Unfortunately with identity politics, “melting pot” has literally become a “micro-aggression” on many college campuses. There are a lot of other phrases that have become verboten as well – and we are poorer linguistically and societal fo…See More
Skip Murphy Thing is, I don’t take ‘melting pot’ as homogenisation. Diversity is a wonderful thing. I do get leaving ethnic jokes behind. Too often they are told by those in groups who dominate in a society and are symptomatic of keeping others away from sharing e…See More
Skip Murphy So you rather would go with the “salad” visualization?
I’m sitting here thinking about homogenizing and agreeing with it to the point that everyone is an Individual
Skip Murphy Let me try this again (hit return too soon).
Skip Murphy So you rather would go with the “salad” visualization?
I’m sitting here thinking about your homogenizing idea and agreeing to it that everyone is a unique Individual and should be treated as such. I am against Groupthink and the idea that Individualism is being branded as selfish and that only the ideas of Communitarian / Collectivism are “right thinking”. Too often, while proponents believe they are the bees knees, it offers too much temptation to be encased in a bubble such that anyone NOT wanting to be part of the Collective must have something wrong with them.
For each Collective, there is their own dogma and will treat their beliefs as such – you are an outcast if you aren’t part of it or speak against that dogma.
For instance, the Left is all about diversity of skin color – but Lord help you if you violate the dogma (example: US Senator Tim Scott is a black Conservative – does that warrant being called a coon man, Boy, Uncle Tom, race denier, and worse?).
As a Conservative, I could care less if you are white, black, yellow, brown, red, or green with purple polka-dots. Diversity to Conservatives is not what you look like but how you THINK. What you BELIEVE.
Yet, to your question of what PC doesn’t allow me to say is just that – that I am colorblind. That I really don’t care what your skin color is – but that makes me RACIST.
I can’t say that I support traditional marriage because that makes me a homophobe.
I can’t say that I support a very limited Government (as our Founders said allowed for maximal Liberty) because then I reject the notion that “The Government is us!” (but that’s now how the Founders saw it while saying the by and for bits)
I can’t say that I am against minimum wage because it should be a private contract between employee and employer.
I can’t say that I am against illegal immigration because that makes me a xenophobe and that I hate brown people.
And in the case of gender dysphoria / Transgenderism, I can’t say that a man can’t be a woman because of biology (I hold a biology degree) and a woman can’t be a man because it’s basic biology at the chromosomal level. Yet I am told that I don’t know science and that I’m a bigot because I refuse to believe that which I know is wrong. But I’m a bigot that I say that there are manifest differences between a man and a woman because I refuse to accept the lie of Political Correctness.
And for each of these, for many folks that also believe the above, there is a very much growing resentment about being forced to believe that which they know (or believe) isn’t true.
This is a very long reply. But you asked a couple of serious questions and they demanded they be answered in like manner.
BLM fits in there as well especially – it goes against the Diversity Political Correctness to be critical of it and its precepts.
Skip Murphy Nelle Douville I don’t agree (speaking of Political Correctness) that “Diversity is our greatest strength”.
Our strength as a Republic lies in the Pillars of Free Speech, Freedom of Worship, The Rule of Law, and the Right to Private Property.
We can quibble and discuss the order and that a couple of other things could be added. I could add that the US is the ONLY country founded on Ideals rather than ethnicity and the willingness to lay other customs and beliefs aside to accept those Ideals and lay aside those from their former nation-States.
Sure, keeping ties to “the old country” traditions are fine but they should always be secondary. Sorry to say, though, because of the Diversity mania, we’re actually seeing a Balkanization of America where every Identity Group is going to its corner and then demanding everyone put them first.
And yes, I miss the days of being to tell the joke of “a Rabbi, a Pastor, and a Priest that were Jewish, Russian, and Polish”….when a joke was often just a joke until someone who was constantly offended made them die because of Political Correctness.
Marie Savasta Dalzell This sickens me. Good thing they sold the restaurant because I bet many would boycott it. I think Chloe should hold a sign right by their house…I’ll pull up a chair
Jane Brogan Marie Savasta Dalzell I would not support their business if they still owned it.
Skip Murphy Jane Brogan So as I read through this thread, I keep seeing the theme that ‘we all should be together” – how would your not eating there match up with “all together? It seems to be more Othering than not.
Jane Brogan Skip it doesn’t relate at all to all together. I simply would not support a business with that mindset.
Marie Savasta Dalzell Skip Murphy I would choose to spend my money elsewhere. I don’t support his views, views that I think are pretty disgusting, and would dine at other establishments.
Skip Murphy So boycotting a business is now just simple politics? Am I understanding this right?
Marcia Kong Social media is a powerful tool and I don’t think it should be used to shame, humiliate or embarass anyone. The Bickfords are being made out to be racists but did anyone think they are sick and tired of al the events that have occurred the past few months. Did anyone think their statement about living in Gilford and not wanting this bull crap is becauseo they have seen racism and don’t want to be a part of it. Why was permission not sought from Eversource to hang the posters? I am sick and tired of all this BLM because it should not even occur here, we should not even have to talk about it. It shoulldn’t even be an issue, but it is and always will be. What is more upsetting to me is all the people jumping on the bandwagon, now, why now? Removing statues, branding changes and all of a sudden cultural/ethnic sensitivity. Again, why now? I am biracial and have been on the receiving end of discrimination. This might not be a popular post but hope it gives you something to think about.
Mary Hoyt Bourgeois Marcia Kong And you ma’am are exactly the reason we must care about the BLM and standing up and not tolerating any, ANY form of racism. You say you are sick of all this BLM. Bill Bickford posted that to his public Facebook page. It was then shared to me. I didn’t shame or embarrass anyone. Bill Bickford shamed and embarrassed himself. I’m not sorry that YOU are sick and tired of all of this, but you know what? My African American daughter and millions of other POC are sick and tired of being discriminated by people simply for the color of their skin!!
Marcia Kong Mary Hoyt Bourgeois Although Bill posted his comments to his FB page, why did you feel it necessary to share in a community group? Please explain why I am the reason we should care about BLM? My previous point is is that race shouldn’t even be an issue, but it is and always will be It makes me sad and angre that we can’t over look the color of a person’s skin. We are better than that.
Mary Hoyt Bourgeois Marcia Kong Clearly some are not better than that. There is much education available at your fingertip as to why you should care about POC.
As for why it was shared by someone, it’s because although Americans have the RIGHT of freedom of speech, they must also be prepared for the consequences of their speech. You can spew hate, but you better be prepared for the backlash from those who WILL NOT tolerate hate.
If you are sad and angry that we can’t overlook a persons skin color, DO SOMETHING. Being anti-racist is an action, a verb. You must do something about it. Stand up and show others why we should care for people of all colors. You can’t just say your sad. If you knew my beautiful, educated, artist, nature loving daughter and were truly angry that color shouldn’t matter, you too would be FURIOUS at the treatment she has received.
Steven Hepburn Marcia Kong “Social media is a powerful tool and I don’t think it should be used to shame, humiliate or embarass anyone”
Great. So why don’t you condemn the racist post by an adult that shamed, humiliated and embarrassed a teenage girl?
He may otherwise be a good person. He may not have meant to be racist. But he was.
Steven Hepburn Marcia Kong you are “sick and tired of all this BLM because it should not even occur here, we should not even have to talk about it. It shoulldn’t even be an issue, but it is and always will be.“
So you don’t think we should need BLM because race shouldn’t be an issue, but you accept that it always is and will be. Then your conclusion from that is to be sick and tired of BLM instead of being sick and tired of racism??! ?
Marcia Kong Mary Hoyt Bourgeois I am bi-racial which I presume makes me a person of color. I am sad and angry that we as a country are not more evolved to have the color of a persons skin be a deciding factor in how they are treated. I’m looking at the bigger picture.
Sara Dupont Marcia Kong social media is a powerful tool. It is their comments that are portraying them in that light. Imagine that you are the only white person in your community. You put out signs about an issue that impacts you. Your neighbor takes them down, s…See More
Marcia Kong Steven Hepburn I didn’t read anything in the post that shamed, humiliated or embarrassed a teenage girl. I am not presuming he is a racist for his post. To sum things up…..race should not even be an issue in this country. I am sick and tired that all of a sudden because of BLM statues are coming down, rebranding is occurring. Why didn’t this happen years ago, decades ago, ions ago?
Sara Dupont Marcia Kong itshould have happened a long time ago.
Marcia Kong Sara Dupont I guess you missed in my previous post that I am bi-racial and have been on the receiving end of discrimination, so I do know what it feels like. Being bi-raciall doesn’t specifically mean black and white, there is also brown and white, red and white or yellow and white and what ever color of the rainbow you want to add.
Steven Hepburn Marcia Kong “Hey White People, are you sick and tired of this bullcrap?” is what he said. Where “this bullcrap” is a picture of a BLM poster created by a teenage girl to peacefully protest police brutality against black people”
If that’s not shaming, humiliating and embarrassing, I don’t know what is.
It’s ok just because he didn’t directly call her out by name?! (After ripping down her posters and calling the police?!)
Sara Dupont Marcia Kong i did not see that. And I will apologize for not knowing that. But what the Bickfords have put my cousin through was unnecessary and cruel. The post was the final straw.
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Steven Hepburn Marcia Kong “Why didn’t this happen years ago, decades ago, ions ago?”
“Sorry black people, if you wanted to be treated equally you should have said so before. Too late now, status quo has been decided. Sucks to be you!”
Marcia Kong Sara Dupont No problemo…..just wanted to clarify that I am not quite white. I wanted to add another opinion that might not be popular in my posts in an attempt to get people to think about the bigger picture, but I guess it was missed understood. I am sick and tired of all the news media talking about BLM and using it as a stepping stone for people and business to jump on the band wagon. It should not have taken acts of violence for this to occur. Why is it in the US that race seems to be such an issue when it isn’t in other countries?
Skip Murphy Marcia Kong It’s sad that MLK’s admonition about “color of one’s skin” vs “the content of their character” has gone by the wayside.
Bruce Wallsten Perhaps some deeper research into these groups, before blindly jumping on a bandwagon, would help people understand why others are upset.
Patrick Gale Bruce Wallsten I mean, he specifically called out white people, not just people. Also, watching Fox isn’t research lol
Bruce Wallsten Patrick Gale no reference was made to that post, or to any media outlet. Simply stating that deeper research may help people understand each other rather than attacking them. Which you seemingly have issue with.
Dillon Cisco Fernandez Patrick Gale Hmmmm… does that statement mean you believe all people who watch Fox are racist and/or ignorant?
Racism exists in all political parties. And with viewers of every news medium. And within all colors on the spectrum.
Skip Murphy Dillon Cisco Fernandez It seems to be a Leftist stereotype of the Right.
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And on another thread, I confronted this Samm JaCrispy Johnson for stirring up this pot by threatening Fay’s Boat Yard’s business if they didn’t fire Mr. Bickford – and she had the stones to deny it. Upon being confronted, she blocked me
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Kyle Parker Fire his ass. Just shows how you guys run business
Howard Quimby Thank you, Fay’s, for publicly wading into something you didn’t have to. Thank you for addressing a behavior you could have ignored. Thank you, Cora, for sharing the core values most of us know to be the true essence of Fay’s and their customers. Our freedom to have and voice opinions means we will not always agree. Trying to do the right thing is a losing proposition on social media today. Have a safe and wonderful summer on the water.
Skip Murphy I agree with the “Our freedom to” bit. This should, however, never have risen to the point of people demanding Bickford be fired. That’s just totalitarian in outlook and mission.
That’s better than Bickford said?
Samm JaCrispy Johnson Seems like a lot more negative publicity than you wanted Fay’s
I suggest you cut these people loose before they start to affect your business
Skip Murphy Threatening Fay’s economically now? Just because you want to personally destroy Bickford’s life?
Ana Rosa For those who want to know what he said
Samm JaCrispy Johnson Ana Rosa hey white people YOU DONT GET TO DECIDE WHAT IS RACIST TOWARDS BLACK PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT BLACK PEOPLE
Larry Hebert Ana Rosa I don’t see the big problem with that. I see worse said about white people every day on social media. Are we now going to destroy people’s lives if they disagree with BLM ??
Shannon Buttermore @ana WOW and this is what is wrong with some people! We live in gilford because we are ALL human! Not of color, not of race, not of religion! He has the right to express his opinion and this WAS NOT racist at all! I think we are all sick of the “race card” being played! You guys have already hung him!!! ??? hes a GREAT GUY and I stand behind him 100000000%! You all should be ashamed!
Brian Bernard Larry Hebert this guy wasn’t an accused racist, he made a blatantly racist post. Hold your breath and huff and puff and say it isn’t all you want, but it totally is. This isn’t cancel culture, it’s neighbors not tolerating an ignorant hate message. Bottom line. He should have been smarter. Real talk, he clearly isn’t. I know I’ll encourage all I know to avoid patronizing establishments where people like that work.
Ana Rosa Yikes, Larry… Yikes.
Larry Hebert Shannon Buttermore Thats how I read it also. Many people are getting tired of the “ cancel culture “. We’re tired of being accused of something, because of who we vote for, wanting to protect our monuments, or because we support the police.
Jeff Carter Ana what did the sign say?
Celeste Lovett Shannon Buttermore It kind of freaks me out that in 2020, you and others don’t recognize this post as racist. It is racist and it just goes to show that even really nice guys have a lot to learn about inclusion.
Rachel Lehcar “nice guys” and “good cooks” can also be white supremacists.
Maggie Ceili Don’t really understand how this can trigger anyone. As someone from Irish Ancestry who’s ancestors were enslaved by the British and sent to Barbados to breed with them to make cheaper slaves – I find the people behind BLM true masters of hate, deceit…See More
Maggie Ceili Celeste – I find the use of the word Racist – RACIST. I am personally offended by anyone who uses this word.
Brian Bernard Larry Hebert if I loved Jesus so much that I erected statues of Satan everywhere simply because “he’s a part of Jesus’ history”, would that send you the message that I love Jesus? Probably not. No one that has defended that clearly racist post has ever…See More
Max Balogna Shannon Buttermore it’s sad you have children who will learn from you…
Damon Rees Shannon Buttermore damn straight I cannot wait to get out to Guilford I hope his neighbor tries this South Side Chicago native I will educate her with the silver tongue she needs
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Skip Murphy Samm JaCrispy Johnson I see that you’ve planted your flag
Skip Murphy Brian Bernard When Samm JaCrispy Johnson is DEMANDING (in all caps) that someone is demanding the firing of someone, it IS Cancel Culture.
Skip Murphy Samm JaCrispy Johnson So this is the same line of logic that men shouldn’t say anything about abortion because they can’t bear children?
Skip Murphy Sorry, that’s not how it works unless you are one of those that doesn’t believe in Free Speech.
Samm JaCrispy Johnson Don’t y’all want all your customers to feel comfortable at your business?
Skip Murphy Nice, real nice – this is what our Society is doddering to – offend me and economically ruin everyone that might be tangentally involved? It’s time for folks to stand up to the bullies on BOTH sides of this.
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Skip Murphy The hypocrisy just drips – you are upset back on the Gilford page about people making threats to a PEACEFUL BLM march – yet here you are making threats against Bickford and Fay’s.
Square that circle for us, will you?
Samm JaCrispy Johnson Skip Murphy I’m not making threats of violence ??
Samm JaCrispy Johnson All I said was “don’t you want people to feel safe doing business with you?”
Skip Murphy Samm JaCrispy Johnson You ARE threatening economic violence upon Fay’s by threatening a PR war against them and now threatening to poison their customer base.
Shannon Buttermore Why dont you all get the WHOLE picture before bashing or hanging!!! You all are no worse only knowing 1 tiny piece!!! He is a GREAT GUY and an amazing cook, neighbour, friend and fellow boater, jeeper and biker! He doesnt care what color people are or who they pray to, I for one am VERY sick of all this B.s. I would gladly take him at my shop god for bid he loose his job over this!
Karen Twomey Bald Shannon Buttermore , if he didn’t want his name associated with a racist post, he should not have put one out in the public domain. Someone has been tearing Chloe’s signs down for weeks, and that is absolutely disgusting. It’s great that this person is such a wonderful cook, biker, and Jeeper, but it appears that he is not such a good human being.
Brian Bernard Shannon Buttermore being racist beats good cook and great guy by a lot. I hope Fay’s realizes no one wants to do business with people who tolerate hate and racism. Also his post makes it abundantly clear he cares what color people are.
Scott Tamburri Shannon Buttermore now they are censoring the post
Shannon Buttermore Scott Tamburri good they should! Some woman posted a screen shot of his post WITH his name! I’m thinking she was the actual racist!
Sara Dupont Shannon Buttermore you mean the mother of the African American girl. After he took down her sings, his wife slammed their door in her face when she tried to speak with them, oh yes then called the cops on them. As she was the one who initially took the screen shot of his post after he did all of those things. Yeah she sounds super racist when defending her daughter.
Shannon Buttermore Sara Dupont again the whole story. I found that other info out last night, thank you.
Sara Dupont Shannon Buttermore thank you for looking into it more. That means a lot. Its the totality of the circumstance. Its very disheartening to hear the whole story and see the impact it has had on Chloe and her family.
But its wonderful to see the empathy and support from the members or the community.
Thank you again for looking at the whole picture. It does mean a lot.
Marie Savasta Dalzell Shannon Buttermore her mother posted it
Damon Rees Karen Twomey Bald he’s a better human than any of you could ever fathom being
Karen Twomey Bald Damon Rees, I am sorry you feel that way. Have a lovely day.
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Tommy Phillips Clearly he isn’t.
Damon Rees Tommy Phillips get all the facts before you left wing fools are so quick to condemn
Tommy Phillips I’m not left wing or right wing. Nor do I think a movement with this kind of weight should be claiming a side nor do I agree with most of the blm money going towards politics when we could spend it better it communities that need it, which would help m…See More
Skip Murphy Karen Twomey Bald So expressing an opinion that he wants to take a walk without politics in his face all the time is racist? As a political blogger for over a decade, I’ve watched the term racist and racism be watered down. I grew up during the Civil Rights time – there was true racism back then and with the Jim Crow laws that GOVERNMENT put in place, it truly was systematic (as opposed to systemic). I used to watch the NFL for escapism from the politics. Now it’s there. I used to watch NASCAR and now it’s there as well. There needs to be time to escape from it all but that is seemingly no longer available. Can’t even take a walk on a trail and there it is.
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Damon Rees Tommy Phillips I spent quite a bit of time up there I know how the town is hence why we love coming there this whole thing just proves the division that the BLM movement creates which is exactly their agenda enough said they’re not the only one sick of it I would have to say most of the country is probably sick of it and if you’re not you’re part of it\\\
Samm JaCrispy Johnson https://facebook.com/events/s/gilford-village-peaceful-march/960727857689164/?ti=icl
Cora Crafts We live in a very precarious world right now. Words, actions, sentiments, and opinions should be well thought out and indicative of our moral character before being put out into the universe. Especially if those words or opinions are going to be posted on a public social media forum where one’s affiliation to their employer is also posted. This post, as I can only assume, put Fay’s Boat Yard as a company in a difficult position, so action needed to be taken. I cannot attest to knowing what the final outcome will be of all of this, nor can I claim I have any power or say in the matter. However, I will say this:
As a member of the Fay family I can attest that we, nor the company my stepfather built, has any tolerance for prejudice or hate of any kind. Mr. Bickford’s post separated himself as a white man and only asked for white opinions, and it also calls a “Black Lives Matter” sign in someone’s yard, which is private property, “this crap”, and “this bull crap”. I am not here to judge Mr. Bickford’s moral character. I am not here to ostracize or alienate anyone. Fay’s Boat Yard is a family establishment, built by a man who believes in the core values of love, and faith, and goodness, and above all: kindness.
I think, after reading these comments, that many have forgotten those core values. Let us remember that, at the end of the day, having a Facebook post deleted is not the end of the world. We have our health. We have our loved ones. We have sunshine in the sky and air to breathe. And yes, we have our opinions and feelings. And, with or without a Facebook post you can hold onto whatever feelings or opinions you have. I pray that they are open and loving and kind opinions, however, everyone is entitled to their own. But we are all just people.
Please, remember that and try to remember the values of the company whose page you are posting on, and how you might look based on your words or opinions. Especially if those words or opinions are written and posted in anger or frustration. We cannot take back negativity once we have put it out into the universe. So please… Be thoughtful. Be kind. We are all human.
Scott Ruggles Cora Crafts while I respect your opinion and always admired you as a student who thought beyond the superficial.
His post was racist and portrays your hometown as racist. “We live in Gilford because we don’t want this bull crap.” The specific use of the term “white people” is racist in tone. Think about it. Had he said “Is anyone else out there sick of this crap” then there’s a bit of wiggle room.
If he hasn’t been terminated then shame of Fay’s.
All lives do matter BUT not all races, creeds, colors, ideological groups, religious groups have been treated the same throughout history. In this case the racial profiling etc has gone on too long and that’s what this is all about. Not black lives mattering more than any other life but black lives being profiled differently by authorities and then those bad apples in the authoritarian groups taking it too far.
Bottom line… racism, subtle or out in the open, needs to end. He should be fired if he already hasn’t been.
Scott Ruggles Cora Crafts and you did it eloquently.
For me there is no other option outside of termination. Lack of termination shows support for his views/opinions. There are other similar cases and situations out there right now. Many resulting in termination.
Doug Whittum Cora Crafts Well said!!!
Cora Crafts Scott Ruggles no disagreement here! Personally, I am an advocate and ally of the BLM movement. I believe that racism and discrimination of any kind, or to suggest that the town I grew up in is overtly racist, is unacceptable.
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Cora Crafts Scott Ruggles totally fair ?. And I respect how people feel on the matter. I wish I had better answers. But I appreciate the dialogues and opinions and being able to have positive discussions where opinions are voiced with respect and thoughtfulness on the matter ??
Steven Hepburn Cora Crafts I love the thought and concept of a teachable moment… if the person is willing to learn and accept that they were wrong. Bill Bickford’s update post today, before he deleted his Facebook page, did not take responsibility at all. I take …See More
Skip Murphy Scott Ruggles “He should be fired if he already hasn’t been.”
And we’re back to the Cancel Movement and the Politics of Personal Destruction (and in this case, the attempt to ensnare Fay’s as well).
What if I caught YOU in saying something that offended me? Should I work to get you fired as well? Is that now an acceptable path to right what I believe to be a wrong?
Having him fired would make him a martyr to some. To a lot of others, you’ll fire up hostility in that your “remedy” is purely political and in this age of political outrage of almost ANYTHING is outrageous will just be throwing gas onto something that is turning into a bonfire.
You said you were a teacher – is getting people fired an acceptable thing to be teaching your students for disagreeing with an opinion?
My God, the word “overzealous” comes quickly to mind.
Sean Wal After seeing the post, i think that Fays did the right thing asking him to remove it. I may not agree or disagree with how he feels but with social media today especially if you put who you work for employers try to stay in the middle of most things. I don’t think this person should lose his job, I think they gave the person the chance to correct this which is shows tolerance on their part.
Kayla Pingree-McCarthy I would agree that taking it down was a good step, but how has he corrected his actions? He has never apologized for his words or actions. Deleting the post without an apology only serves to protect him; it does nothing to show he is learning.
Sean Wal I’m not sure if Fays is having him do anything else. That’s between them and him. But hates just breeds more hate. Educating does so much more than lecturing and insulting.
Kayla Pingree-McCarthy Agreed. I am not sure it is the business’s responisbility to make this man apologize. I just think that if firing him is not something they are willing to do, they could request that he formally apologize.
Sean Wal They could.
Skip Murphy Kayla Pingree-McCarthy It’s not their business at all to make him apologize.
They are being threatened with economic loss as way to get Bickford Cancelled. This is how it works nowadays, like it or not and if you disagree with it, they will come for you at some point because someone is ALWAYS looking to be offended about something.
If folks ought to be finding out who the snitch is that threatened Fay’s or this stupidness will never stop. Today Fay’s – it could be you and your’s tomorrow.
Kayla Pingree-McCarthy Skip Murphy “Threatened” seems more than a bit harsh. And it wasn’t just one person, it was plenty of people who alerted Fay’s to this man’s post.
What does “Get Bickford Cancelled” even mean, exactly? He isn’t a television show. He is a person. And p…See More
Sean Wal But people aren’t looking for an apology they are looking for him to be fired
Kayla Pingree-McCarthy Sean Wal Some people are, but not everyone. Personally, I’d be pleased if they fired him because his actions deserve actual consequences, and most employers would fire someone who spoke in such a way (even on facebook). But what I want doesn’t matter.
Skip Murphy Kayla Pingree-McCarthy Did you read what @Samm JaCrispy Johnson wrote at the top of the post, and then in the middle? She outright threatened a PR war against Fay’s if Bickford wasn’t fired and then another about going after their customers.
I’ve screencapped what she wrote and copied it. Sure as Shootin’ she deleted the comment – but not before I got it.
Steven Hepburn Skip Murphy Free market baby! Isn’t that the libertarian way? Or are you “politically-fluid” now?
Skip Murphy I am for Free Markets, but what does this have to do with what I believe was an attempt at extortion?
Melanie R Franks Whether we like it or not , Mr. Bickford has a right to voice his views . For the people that are asking Fay’s to terminate this man , you really do not understand the law or the fact that he has rights too . If they were to fire him , he could easily obtain a lawyer and sue them for discrimination in the workplace . I know you all are mad , I get it . But writing on his wall and demanding this company to fire him is ridiculous…
Howard Quimby If we start firing everyone who posts something disagreeable on social media, most of the country will be unemployed. ?
Damon Rees Howard Quimby pretty much
Skip Murphy You are COMPLETELY right – in their hate to ruin Bickford (and now threatening Fay’s), they have become WORSE than Bickford. SCREAMING for negative consequences for simply stating the opinion that he and his wife just don’t want to see politics in thei…See More
Breanna Hutcheson New Hampshire is an at-will state meaning they can fire him at any time and they aren’t required to list a reason. We all have a right to voice our views, yes, but the first amendment protects us from interference from the government, and offers no protection from other consequences such as losing our job. He could try to get a lawyer, but there wouldn’t be much of a case there.
Melanie R Franks Breanna, I beg to differ . Yes , it is a at-will-state . BUT , that would not stop a suit against them for discrimination in the workplace .The only thing this law does is a employer does not have to give a reason . Bickford , would have to prove in court that he was wrongfully terminated . You might want to read up on the laws a little better .
Skip Murphy THere is such a thing as viewpoint discrimination that is grounds for a suit.
Christopher Brown What if I had a white Lives matter sign on my lawn…would that be considered racist…if BLM really wanted to make a difference…they would focus on black on black. Statistics prove more blacks are killed by other black at a greater rate that any other statistic. We are not a racist town…this is an organization with very deep hate and that is the agenda they push.
Matt Larose Christopher Brown Same with white on white, asian on asian, etc. Overtime communities have been built and forced that condense races of people. So with this fact it is easy to tell that this happens because of their close proximities.
Christopher Brown Matt Larose I don’t feel this is accurate. Even taking that into consideration black on black far exceeds the rest. Boston does not have the same murder rate as Chicago even in the condensed neighborhoods. BLM could be an amazing Noble cause if they took race out of the equation. They are saying that only black lives matter who are killed by cops or white people. Not black lives killed by other blacks. The political agenda that fuels this movent is trying to divide this country. We are a very open community and the people of Gilford are certainly open to anyone no matter what your color is. After seeing the aftermath of other communities because of the vacuum that BLM creates I can understand their fear. We simply do not want our community to turn into Seattle or Minneapolis. We understand that these examples were not caused by BLM, but by others that want to disrupt our way of life.
Celeste Lovett BLM is a movement specific to police brutality to the black community and it is only at the forefront right now because George Floyd’s death was caught on video. If it had not been recorded, the movement would not have grown into what it is right now. It is a moment in time for members of society to listen and comprehend that this part of society has not mattered. It is not about an agenda, it is about listening to a need. The way to do that in a small community like Gilford is to embrace POC in the community, not to further silence them. Nobody needs a white lives matter sign because it is OBVIOUS that white lives matter. Everybody wins if we take this BLM in history to listen, learn and change.
Christopher Brown Celeste Lovett are you actually citing white privilege??? That is a ridiculous and racist statement. Its obvious that all lives matter. To say that because I am white that I feel my life is worth more than blacks is extremely racist. Just like condemning all law enforcement because of a few bad cops. I back the blue…all day…they are here to protect and serve, which they do very well. But to say there is a police brutality issue is like saying all whites are racist. When you cannot see the whole picture…when all you focus on is the hate and negativity that is being spewed by both sides is makes you blind to the 99% of the population.
Celeste Lovett Christopher Brown I didn’t say any of the things that you are saying here. Obviously all lives matter but the point is that historically and today, POC lives have not had as much value as other people. Again, obviously, this is not everyone but as a standard. You don’t need to defend that your life matters or police lives matter (obviously police lives matter), it is simply a moment in time to look at someone else’s point of view. It is not mandatory, nobody is making you do it, it is simply an opportunity.
Brian Bernard Christopher Brown what actual data do you have to support these claims? Been tracking black on black crime for fun or do you just like to rely on over generalized statements that fit your narrative?
Christopher Brown Matt Larose wow…I didn’t know that about me…amazing you do…I don’t spew information without facts…but you clearly do..
Matt Larose Just woke up and wrote that, could’ve been worded better but not going to waste my time explaining to someone who blatantly will never change their mind
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Damon Rees Christopher Brown it only matters when it fits their fucking agenda brother I live in Chicago the same BLM pools crying in the middle of the streets just shot 111 of their own people this weekend black lives matters only matters when it’s white people …See More
Skip Murphy Celeste Lovett Have your read the BLM Foundation manifesto? See, too, what the co-founder said about its Marxist roots. I’ll just throw this in for grins and giggles. https://granitegrok.com/…/black-lives-matter-nashua-and…
To be honest, more than a few are liking the fact they can be called racist simply because of an immutable attribute of their being.
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Skip Murphy Brian Bernard It’s an easy look up for FBI statistics. The Chicago black on black gun crime is public knowledge in the media
Ana Rosa Translation: “We live in Gilford because we don’t care about black people”
Larry Hebert Ana Rosa Thats not how I read it. It can be interpreted differently I guess. Just my opinion.
Ana Rosa Considering these people called the cops on a mother’s black daughter I’d say the circumstances are a bit different. Your honesty is appreciated though.
Scott Tamburri Ana Rosa that’s not it at all
You racist
Tommy Phillips She’s racist by pointing out someone else’s racism? Hmm seems peculiar.
Larry Hebert Tommy Phillips How is it racism? Do you know the definition?
Tommy Phillips Judging someone based on their race alone, including but not limited to your comments and actions.
Larry Hebert Tommy Phillips Thats not the literal definition, but i’ll let it slide. The issue here is that what you just said doesnt go both ways. If people really want to have the conversation, then have it without publicly shaming others for an opinion.
Tommy Phillips If you post it to social media as a public post is it not open for public opinion? And I’m sure there are way more accurate ways to define racism, I’d agree.
Rachel Lehcar larry i agree that canceling someone for being racist won’t help anything. what’s the solution? how do we turn racists into anti racists?
Skip Murphy Rachel Lehcar We talk. And talk more, And then even more. We don’t Cancel someone – that adds fuel to the political fire (and make no mistake, this is now political).
And people have to remember that “Tolerance” goes both ways. Being intolerant to those you think are intolerant is not tolerance. I say that because our common language is being redefined out from underneath us. And also realize that there will always be those that you will disagree with and they with you. Are we to mandate that everyone must agree with you? Or should they agree with me (and I’m betting that there’s a lot of people on this and the Gilford Community page that may be recoiling in rage at that ;^) ).
Tolerance is allowing people to believe what they want EVEN if you don’t like it.
Rachel Lehcar i don’t think you understood my post. i said “canceling someone for being racist wont stop racism. what do we do? how do we turn racists into anti racists?”
also, i do not believe it is right to ask someone to be “tolerant” to racism. pro oppression? say whaaaaaat?
Skip Murphy Rachel Lehcar First, stop with the idea that the only good person is an anti-racist person. There isn’t enough time in the day, nor available bandwidth in someone’s life, to take up every single issue that somebody believes is the most important thing in their lives. And just because some pick other issues to concentrate on doesn’t make them a racist because they aren’t being an “anti-racist”.
For the record, I don’t know anyone in Gilford that is a proponent FOR Racism so this is a non-starter. I point out the words “tolerant” or “tolerance” just like I do when I see “inclusion” used when in the next moment, the speaker’s actions are to exclude people. The answer to your question? There may not be one. Talk with them. Talk with more – but starting off being judgemental from the get go will probably end up with a walkaway. And as I have said earlier, racism has gone from REAL racism (like the Democrat South where racism was codified and enforced by Government) to sometimes being a so called microagression (just as a guy simply eyeballing a nice looking lady simply because they are pretty and NOT in a leering manner. I do remember when it was a complement to say “looking nice today” to either sex instead of being sexist or misogynsit).
Sophie Brunt This man’s neighbors posted a sign in their yard that says “Black Lives Matter”. That’s all. And if you’re not racist, you should agree with the sign. If you disagree with the sign, you’re saying “black lives don’t matter”. That’s the literal definition of racism. This is further evidenced by the fact that he attempted to invoke the support of “white people” specifically to back him up on his position that he’s “tired of this crap” —the “crap” meaning the reminder that black peoples lives matter. He further stated that he moved to gilford so he didn’t have to “deal with this bull crap” —again, the “bull crap” clearly referring to the discussion of race. This sends a pretty clear message that he a) does not want to live in a place where he has to be reminded of the existence of black people and b) be reminded that their lives matter. If you don’t think that’s racist, I’d encourage you to do a little research, especially if you’ve lived your entire life in a sheltered white community. Taking the post down is not enough. It’s not just one post, it’s a way of life for this person. It’s a mindset of hate and hostility towards black people and it reflects very poorly on your business if you defend him by insisting that the only “corrective action” needed was to take the post down. Good luck with your business.
Ana Rosa Beautifully said Ms Sophie <3
Larry Hebert Sophie Brunt You can agree that black lives matter, and disagree with the actual organization, which is deeply rooted in Marxism. Don’t get the messages confused. You can also take the stance that we are tired of cities burning, businesses looted and statues being removed. The “ cancel culture “ is out of control and WILL be stopped.
Sophie Brunt Larry Hebert black people are tired of being slaughtered in the streets and those of us who care about them are tired of watching. We will continue to fight for justice, we will continue to hold racist people accountable for their actions and will not stop until people in this country stop murdering and lynching black people.
Larry Hebert Sophie Brunt no one is being slaughtered in the streets. Statistics matter
Sophie Brunt Larry Hebert if you’re going to deny the fact that black people are being murdered and oppressed, then this conversation is over. I have nothing else to say to you if you refuse to believe facts. Go watch the 13th on Netflix if you want a quick education about the systemic racism that is alive and well in our country today.
Larry Hebert Sophie Brunt and before you accuse people of literal racism, you better have evidence. It’s no different than accusing Trump supporters of being Nazi’s. This BS needs to stop before things get really ugly.
Larry Hebert Samm JaCrispy Johnson Show us your evidence that these people or anyone else is racist. Simply disagreeing with a liberal is not the definition of racism.
Larry Hebert Samm JaCrispy Johnson yea ok?. Point is, things are going to get completely out of control if we continue to allow anarchists to destroy the country.
Sophie Brunt Larry Hebert I quite literally just explained in very simple language why the post in question was racist.
Larry Hebert Sophie Brunt No, you’re relying on the radical leftist definition of racism. Not the actual definition. Show evidence.
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Larry Hebert Samm JaCrispy Johnson Me? No I don’t . Another myth busted ?
Jeff Hebert Larry Hebert i’m so very glad I’m not related to you in any way shape or form, and that the only thing we seem to share is a name.
Larry Hebert No, the literal definition gets to decide, not white liberals ?.
Larry Hebert Jeff Hebert same here. Now go kneel before your BLM masters.
Sophie Brunt I’d say the post was pretty antagonistic. I rest my case.
Larry Hebert Sophie Brunt evidence and facts matter. Your emotions based on the fact that youve been indoctrinated, means nothing.
Jeff Hebert Larry Hebert i’ll pass, how’s your boot taste?
Larry Hebert Sophie Brunt kinda like what your doing right now ?
Sophie Brunt Hahaha Jesus Christ. I can’t even allow my brain to entertain this conversation anymore. Also, it’s *you’re.
Nadia Bennett Corrado Larry Hebert disagreeing with a liberal is definitely racist ? I agree with you. I definitely support black lives. Having a black brother, sister and cousin and Uncle! I absolutely support them! But the terrorist organization BLM? Nope! And see how dissenting voices are treated? I am so tired of being told I’m racist! It’s BS.
So glad I work for myself and don’t have to worry about pandering to the mob!
Larry Hebert Nadia Bennett Corrado They rely on people and businesses backing down and caving to their demands. We need to stop backing down to this small but well funded mob.
Nadia Bennett Corrado Larry Hebert ?♀️ I hear you. It’s awful.
Nadia Bennett Corrado People really need to educate themselves on what BLM group is all about and who funds them. Look up George Soros. Follow the money.
Larry Hebert Nadia Bennett Corrado exactly. They’re being manipulated because they think it’s a good cause.
Rachel Lehcar hey fellow white people: let’s not argue about who is and who isnt a racist. all white people benefit from white supremacy and have grown up with racist rhetoric so prevalent it takes work to reprogram it. it is a long, painful and CONSTANT process. …See More
Matt Larose Racist people refuse to listen and play a feeble strawman that depicts BLM as meaning Only Black Lives Matter when in fact someone without a smooth brain would understand it means Black Lives Matter TOO
Rachel Lehcar i know matt it’s hard and frustrating and draining and feels like you’re never gonna get through sometimes. ♥️
Rachel Lehcar larry, calling someone a racist isn’t a big deal because so many people are racists. it’s more like, being confident and strong and admitting when you are wrong and learning from your mistakes.
Matt Larose Rachel Lehcar Agreed. Honestly I admit now that a year ago I had the common ideas of these people in my head like “BLM is out to kill whites” and “blacks kill more blacks anyways” (btw that’s because they are condensed into communities along with other…See More
Matt Larose Rachel Lehcar Also these ideas were because of family and location
Rachel Lehcar yes! being able to change your mind is a powerful thing that i feel we forget we can do. hopefully you publicly posting that you once different views can help others ♥️
Matt Larose Rachel Lehcar I try to let people know who are on the fence and feel like they’re community, friends, or family will ostracize them and people will call them a hypocrite. People change minds and nothing to be ashamed of, just shows growth and evolution
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Matt Mayo Larry Hebert if you’re from NH then none of your cities have been burnt down. Sick of seeing white people from the middle of the woods complaining about what the rest of the U.S is going though. Have you been there to stop the riots Larry? Are you doin…See More
Skip Murphy Larry Hebert She hasn’t read the FBI crime statistics.
Skip Murphy Samm JaCrispy Johnson Right from the Co-founder’s mouth: https://granitegrok.com/…/black-lives-matter-founder…
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Black Lives Matter Founder Admits on Video: “We’re Trained Marxists” – Granite Grok
Skip Murphy Samm JaCrispy Johnson Two can play this game: NOT wanting to see riots and seeing black own property and black economics lives ruined is now racist!
Skip Murphy Larry Hebert She has little history behind her and I’m betting that her sense of history in toto is much larger.
Skip Murphy Samm JaCrispy Johnson No, that’s not how it works – you really want the Balkanization of America to continue?
Skip Murphy Samm JaCrispy Johnson And is there something wrong with exercising one’s Article 2-A Right?
Skip Murphy Larry Hebert It is how our Society has morphed into snowflakian proportions. People can’t seem to figure out that all of these Political Correctness / Cultural Marxism epithets lose their Power once someone goes “I just don’t care anymore”. Progressives have called me so many names over the years that they have lost their Power. You name it, I’ve been called it – and not ONCE have they ever proved anything. It’s all Political Theater and acts of virtual/signaling – making themselves feel good about their Self-Righteousness. I just laugh.
Skip Murphy But it has come to the point if you insert any other race for Black, you are declared to be a racist. That’s wrong.
Skip Murphy Rachel Lehcar “all white people benefit from white supremacy”. I totally disagree with that premise as you can’t prove a thing about me. It has degenerated into a meaningless platitude. Worse, you have just Othered an entire class of people simply because they are People of Pallor. This WHOLE argument that anyone who isn’t a minority is automatically is rather disgusting. And I reject this Cultural Marxist theory of White Guilt. as a Collective sin. Sorry, *I* may sin but that doesn’t automatically apply to everyone else. Its a, if I can be so bold, a “religious appropriation” (to plaigerize another phrase).
Skip Murphy Matt Larose Can you entertain the notion that they may APPEAR to have changed their minds because they’re tired of being called that all the time? There are a lot of people whom others believe they are racists simply because of opinion disagreements. Now there can be a resentment over doing it so they don’t get bullied for not accepting the groupthink.
Skip Murphy “if you’re from NH then none of your cities have been burnt down. Sick of seeing white people from the middle of the woods complaining about what the rest of the U.S is going though”. Maybe our cities haven’t been burnt down because we “middle of the woods” have much better sensibilities and morals to not destroy other peoples’ Private Property? Or has that notion not occurred to you? Perhaps you ought to be asking “what are we doing right that others are doing wrong”?
Scott Ruggles His post was racist and portrays Gilford as harbor for white supremacy. “We live in Gilford because we don’t want this bull crap.” The specific use of the term “white people” is racist in tone. Think about it. Had he said “Is anyone else out there sick of this crap” then there’s a bit of wiggle room. If he hasn’t been terminated then shame of Fay’s.
All lives do matter BUT not all races, creeds, colors, ideological groups, religious groups have been treated the same throughout history. In this case the racial profiling etc has gone on too long and that’s what this is all about. Not black lives mattering more than any other life but black lives being profiled differently by authorities and then those bad apples in the authoritarian groups taking it too far. Bottom line… racism, subtle or out in the open, needs to end. He should be fired if he already hasn’t been.
Ana Rosa So you fired him right?
Kevin Flaherty Ana Rosa you not serious?
Skip Murphy Kevin Flaherty And we’re back to the Cancel Movement from the “tolerant” ones.
Kevin Flaherty Skip Murphy people need to toughen up . Makes me sick to see adults act like children the world is not perfect people need to learn to deal with it. If there was such a problem they have had hundreds of years to straighten it out , I don’t feel bad
Samm JaCrispy Johnson The comments on this post are sick and disgusting. If you think anything they said was acceptable you’re JUST as racist as them
Christopher Michael Fays, just delete this whole feed. Your business does not deserve any of these comments. Your employee made a very negative post on HIS page. You asked him to delete it. He did. End of story for Fays Boat Yard. If you people want to make negative attacks, go to Bills page. Your level of hate on here is no different than his. Grow up and worry about your house. You all seem to live the perfect life behind your white picket fence. ?
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Skip Murphy Were you the one that tried to Cancel Bickford? I notice that you cut off who sent the original message.
Samm JaCrispy Johnson Skip Murphy what are you saying!?
Samm JaCrispy Johnson I didn’t cut off any messages
Skip Murphy I asked if you were the one that snitched the Bickfords out? After all, you already threatened Fay’s with economic harm if Fay’s didn’t fire Bickford.
And that’s when she blocked me faster than if she had grabbed the handle of a hot frying pan at the Common Man restaurant at the Hooksett / Rt 93 rest stop. And now I’ve gotten this off my plate and out of my system. But Steve will have a cow in that this is 12K words long – heh!
