And aren’t you just THRILLED with how well your new dishwasher works (sarcasm – I hate mine)? Thanks, Govt, for “looking out for me”! All by our faceless, unaccountable, unelected, and now, REALLY unassailable bureaucrats all in thrall to Global Warming.
It’s for their own good (justifying their jobs while we just want to be left alone). Is this what Govt is supposed to do?
Our Govt IS looking to hijack our gas ranges as they are pushing regulations so much that only 4% of what the market now offers will be available for purchase, you know who the only people will be that will be able to afford them). And God help us all if the Feds start taking after Vermont, whose S.5 bill is going to put the price of gas out of reach for most of us.
I wanted to play catch up on what we’ve already posted on this – which turned out to only be the first salvo:
- Steve – Report Motivating Feds to Consider Gas Stove Ban Funded By Green Group Committed to Transition Away From… Natural Gas
- Steve – Banning Gas Stoves, Dogs and Cats, Living Together, Mass Hysteria …
- Skip – Treehugger – Yep, I’m Unstacking Stuff. Treehugger Was against Stoves before They Were against Stoves.
- Steve – Granholm: Lots of Misinformation About Gas Stove Bans, But Yeah, This Rule Would Ban Half of Them
So I’ve decided to fill in some more info to show that our Government really doesn’t care what you think – they have the Power and they are making us know that we don’t. So they are going to be “re-imagining” our appliances without a single “by your leave” – or Legislation. Biden’s Eco-minion regulators have figured out that they can do this all on their own. But it does go back a ways in time. A few posts from Treehugger (they were on this “delete gas” hobbyhorse for a long time) that was already starting to kvetch about “take gas away! Take it away! You don’t need that!” even when I pointed out that during electrical grid failures, I could still cook a hot meal for my family on my gas stove (I was branded a heretic). And the first one, from 2018, mentions the Rocky Mountain Institute (RMI) that Steve’s post has.
Background/History:
- 2018 – Which Is More Energy Efficient for Cooking: Gas or Induction?
- 2018 – Gas Stoves Are Unhealthy and Polluting, and the New York Times Is on It
Electrify EVERYTHING! was their mantra – before our grid got so shaky (conspiracy – take away gas and “all of a sudden”, electricity becomes problematic? ).
- 2020 – San Francisco Bans New Natural Gas Hookups (The move will improve air quality and reduce carbon emissions.). I pointed out that CA was already having rolling blackouts – glorious!
- 2021 – Should We Electrify Everything or Keep a Gas Backup? They said no as they IMMEDIATELY said people would use gas ovens to heat their houses. I think most people know that doing it will kill you from carbon dioxide/monoxide poisoning. A BIG fight in the comments section – enjoy it!
- 2022 – Study: Methane Emissions From Gas Stoves Have Climate Impact of 500,000 Cars
- 2022 – My Family Switched to Induction Cooking and We’d Never Go Back
And non-Treehugger link:
And it turns out that it wasn’t the CPSC that that was going to do the Dirty Deed – try the Department of Energy
- Energy Department proposes efficiency rules for cooking devices after gas stove furor (let’s stop using fossil fuels by other means, right?)
- And how the study by RMI underlying all this is exposed: What to know about the study behind the push to ban gas stoves
The key to the finding is the quality of the data they used — and critics say the researchers failed to factor in the findings of the most comprehensive global study on the topic conducted to date.
That would be a report published in 2013 by the International Study of Asthma and Allergies in Childhood, or ISAAC, which utilizes data from more than 512,000 children in 47 different countries. The ISAAC study ultimately concluded there was “no evidence of an association between the use of gas as a cooking fuel and either asthma symptoms or asthma diagnosis.”…“There’s so many factors involved — you can’t just claim that 12% of asthma cases [are] related to a gas stove. You just can’t do that,” he said in an interview. “And maybe in some scenarios, it is [the cause]. And maybe in other scenarios, it’s not.”
- Let the ban begin, incrementally -> with 50% off the market: “DOE rule could take half of gas stoves off market, new projection shows“. So, CPSC said all, then none, then DoE said maybe, and now 50%??? This was “interesting” – you can buy them but only use them for THIS much:
The proposed rule-making would set new efficiency standards for both electric and gas cooking tops, preventing them from exceeding set levels of energy use per year. (For gas stoves, this would be set at 1,204 British thermal units, or BTU, per year.)…The metrics used would not attempt to limit stove usage when they are installed and in use.
The British thermal unit (BTU or Btu) is a measure of heat, which is measured in units of energy. It is defined as the amount of heat required to raise the temperature of one pound of water by one degree Fahrenheit.
Sure, no limits. However, like current dishwashers and clothes washers, to “save” water and energy, they take twice as long. Am I being cynical to think that the largest burner that will be allowed going forward will the the same size as my current “simmer” burner?
And then the “We’re going to ban gas stoves by regulating them out of existence” begins.
- 2023 – US Considers Gas Stove Regulations as Research Mounts on Indoor Air Pollution Risks (The Consumer Product Safety Commission is concerned by the findings of a new study: 13% of childhood asthma cases are caused by gas stoves.) Made the claim that gas ranges do kids asthma. And Americans are clueless about harming themselves – WE must protect them against themselves (said the US Consumer Product Safety Commission bureaucrats). Again, fun in the comments. And by my friend VB:
Did anyone bother to inquire about how asthma—an allergy-response disease—is caused by natural gas cookstoves when there are no allergens in natural gas, or question the conflict of interest by the climate activist group Rocky Mountain Institute as a co-author of the paper? No—of course not. That would be inconvenient.
Me:
One of the “tells” of Progressives/Socialists – they TRULY believe that the rest of us should NEVER be allowed to make our own decisions. They SERIOUSLY believe that we are NOT adults and that we should NEVER be allowed that most unprogressive attribute of all….
Freedom. To choose for ourselves.
And then the walk-back begins (2023 onward):
The Consumer Product Safety Commission is not planning to ban gas stoves, its chairman said Wednesday, seeking to tamp rising political furor caused by another commissioner’s comments earlier this week. “I am not looking to ban gas stoves and the CPSC has no proceeding to do so,” Chairman Alexander Hoehn-Saric said in a statement.
- Treehugger – There’s No Gas Stove Ban But Regulations Can Reduce Indoor Air Pollution (joining in with the entire Leftist media in Denying what was said – the beginning of gaslighting us all. TH fell for it…until they didn’t). And one of my better comments on agency and freedom to choose here (“Short Answer: yes, just like Bob said….)
Oh yes there is a ban!
Yes, the Biden administration is coming for your gas stove. The legacy media and the Left attempted to brush off the initial gas stove controversy and outcry from the Right as nothing more than an unsubstantiated, irrational conspiracy theory. The White House even insisted that President Joe Biden does not support a ban on gas stoves after one of his federal consumer safety officials suggested that such a ban was on the table.
But, as we are seeing in so many other instances, Republicans were right all along. President Joe Biden’s Department of Energy is, in fact, pushing an extreme regulation that would effectively eliminate nearly all gas stoves.
The Department of Energy is conducting this gas stove grab through a rule that would impose extreme energy performance standards on residential cooktops. The department’s proposed rule sets requirements for gas cooktops at the maximum technologically feasible or “max-tech” level. Based on the Department of Energy’s own analysis, gas cooktops at the max-tech level represent just 4% of current market share and exclude all conventional free-stand ranges.
Any rule that causes 96% of the products available today to be eliminated from the market is an extreme regulation. In fact, it is essentially an outright ban on gas stoves…Comically, Biden’s Department of Energy is justifying this proposed requirement based on estimated savings to the consumer for gas cooktops of $21.89 over the next 14.5 years, which equates to a savings of just $1.50 per year. People are not willing to trade such substantially decreased functionality and features for minuscule savings
- And they were lying even as they were walking it back: Internal Memo Shows Biden Admin Wanted To Ban Gas Stoves Before Public Backlash
Such claims, however, have nothing to do with science and everything to do with radical climate activism.
…“I am not looking to ban gas stoves and the CPSC has no proceeding to do so,” Hoehn-Saric said in a statement.
A memo published by Fox News in February, however, shows federal regulators were far more serious about efforts to ban the gas appliance.
“The need for gas stove regulation has reached a boiling point,” Trumka wrote in an October memo. “CPSC has the responsibility to ban consumer products that emit hazardous substances, particularly, when those emissions harm children, under the Federal Hazardous Substances Act.”
(Memo here).
“There is sufficient information available for CPSC to issue an NPR in FY 2023 proposing to ban gas stoves in homes,” he added. “The additional work needed to complete an NPR is primarily economic; the available health and scientific evidence on illnesses caused by the relevant gasses at the concentrations present in homes with gas stoves already exists.”
Emissions from the food cooked, however, are 11 times higher than the gas on the stove. Studies purporting to show dangerous emission levels from gas stoves examine aerial pollutants in enclosed spaces without ventilation.
Stoves are the anvils – now for the hammer (increased gas prices that will further constrain usage)
Oh, and that estimated savings to the consumer for gas cooktops of $21.89 over the next 14.5 years? Yeah, manipulated. Does “Social Cost of Carbon Dioxide” ring a bell? It should. It got put into use during the Obama reign – it’s only purpose was to take a nebulous term and turn it into the environmental version of a Barrett .50 rifle? Or is the Ma Deuce (.50 cal machinegun) a better metaphore?
Everything that is done by Government for economic reasons is based on that number – and it is arbitrary. It is whatever the current administration wants to peg it at. Obama had it at $53 to justify programs and making your lives miserable. Trump reduced it to a dollar. Biden has set it back to $53. In this case, for that measly “SAVINGS!” of $21.89 over 14.5 years ($1.51/year), it will end up being FAR more expensive just in the upfront costs of buying a new range or additional gas.
Here is the most important document that the Biden Admin is using to kill off gas ranges. That financial mumbo-manipulation is on page 3.
DOE estimates the value of climate benefits from a reduction in greenhouse gases (“GHG”) using four different estimates of the social cost of CO2 (“SC-CO2 ”), the social cost of methane (“SC-CH4 ”), and the social cost of nitrous oxide (“SC-N2 O”). Together these represent the social cost of GHG (“SC-GHG”).[8] DOE used interim SC-GHG values developed by an Interagency Working Group on the Social Cost of Greenhouse Gases (“IWG”).[9] The derivation of these values is discussed in section IV.L of this document. For presentational purposes, the climate benefits associated with the average SC-GHG at a 3-percent discount rate are estimated to be $1.17 billion. DOE does not have a single central SC-GHG point estimate and it emphasizes the importance and value of considering the benefits calculated using all four SC-GHG estimates.
Oh, the A/C – just starting but you can see what they are planning here.
The new energy efficiency standards, which will apply to room air conditioners and portable air cleaners, will enter into effect next year. The Energy Department contended that the new rules will assist with “tackling the climate crisis,” as well as save consumers $25 billion over the next three decades. Room air conditioners are more commonly called window air conditioners.
Has ANYONE ever experienced a lowered cost from anything that the govt has promised to “help” us with?
It’s like they’ve planned this all out in advance…indeed they have:
THE GREEN SCAM: Dark money group pushing gas stove crackdown has significant financial stake in green energy.
Alex Laskey, Saul Griffith and Ari Matusiak – who together founded Rewiring America in 2020 – have all pursued various wind, solar, electrification and energy efficiency ventures, some of which have netted them millions of dollars in buyouts or received significant federal funding. The three co-founders have simultaneously advocated for policies benefiting those ventures through the nonprofit.
“It’s a shocking amount of money that they’re hauling in with this scheme of theirs,” Tom Pyle, the president of the Institute for Energy Research, told Fox News Digital in an interview. “I call it Big Green Inc. It is literally a business for these guys and they cloak themselves in the mantra of trying to save the planet. But, really, this is just very sophisticated self-dealing.”
“Congress needs to be an aggressive watchdog precisely because of organizations like Rewiring America.”
As Glenn Reynolds says:
MAKING ORDINARY PEOPLE’S LIVES WORSE IS THE GOAL, THE ENVIRONMENT IS JUST THE EXCUSE
It’s all about The Control.
