I’ve had a running series from Nashua politics (taking a bit of time on FB instead of here), specifically on Jan Schmidt and her lie about GraniteGrok (second “text balloon” down):
Calling her out on this blatant lie has made her quite angry because we proved she WAS lying with our RSA 91:A demand of the Merrimack Police Department who said that “There have been zero Merrimack Police Department protection duty assignments.” Period.
And I wasn’t surprised when Jan Schmidt decided that instead of being caught in a lie, she made tracks to call herself a victim and throwing the Women’s Card even as we have a record of her not stopping her husband from actually bullying another female.
What has been rather interesting is how the Progressives in that FB group rallied around her and the tactics. They’ve tried to all but call me the liar, that GraniteGrok is plain garbage, that I’m not a journalist, demanding how I need to “prove” things. (Like that Schmidt really meant the Merrimack Police and not the Merrimack County “police.”)
And the list goes on.
“Word sniping”, deflection, acting ignorant, redefining commonly used words – anything but accepting Jan Schmidt’s own words as both her words and the truth of those words. ANYTHING but accepting that what was said was true. And that includes going WAY off topic at times just to shift “The Narrative” – like this from fellow NH State Rep Debra Stevens (emphasis mine): who really was:
Debra Stevens [to] Skip I’m suspect that there is a failure to document… I’m aware of contact our Merrimack Reps (plural) have made w/police from being threatened. It is very scary to be a NH State Rep these days bc of our ravenous gun culture & the willingness to be threatening & aggressive, overtly or covertly, in stating an opposing view. Very scary what the gun culture has allowed to become the norm. Very scary indeed. It’s a state-wide issue wherever there is push-back on gun issues that arise. These ppl who are aggressive & threatening are the same ppl who decry they are “law abiding” citizens. It is unlawful to harass & threaten someone. I have visited gun sites where there is open discussion about shooting ppl. And about total anarchy, too. Total unbridled violence…so pathetic to have those values, imo. I have zero reason to doubt what I’ve heard directly from the horse’s mouth about police contact. I believe it would be unlawful for police to release info that would compromise someone’s very life as well as their families… similiar to domestic violence protections. When it comes to rtk (your inquiry @ MPD) or someone’s safety of life/family/property the latter trumps. That’s enough for me
There’s quite a bit to unpack there, but what it comes down to is:
- throwing shade at the MPD to keep their documentation about such things correct
- distorted our RTK about asking about aggregate requests (perfectly legal) to make it seem that it was about specific individuals
- blames it all on gun owners and “gun culture” (whatever that means) that is all about committing violence all the time, wants total anarchy
And she makes up logic that boggles the mind going from A to G back to C and then onward to….somewhere. And this on top of that:
Debra Stevens *we’re* where means in or to what place. No dear, I’m def not kidding. Gun violence is not a joke, sadly. It’s quite real. Irresponsible gun owners that allow children access to guns is a problem as is suicide. Can you shed some light on why these things should be regarded as a “joke”? That is a PERFECT example of a ravenous gun-nut mind-set remark. The joke’s on you
Perfectly outlining how Progressives view law abiding and safety conscious gun owners.
We, Second Amendment Right supporters, are being given a front row seat as to the mindset of Progressives will ignore the facts (that NH is the second safest State in the nation for gun CRIME). It’s not violence – that’s just a focus group result akin to the made up term “assault weapons” to make it sound more sinister because CRIME is already being dealt with – unless you live on the south side of Chicago or some other urban areas.
She literally sees all of us as having “ravenous gun-nut mind-sets”
And all that because I had evidence that Jan Schmidt lied – and only that. I’ll go even further. A bit earlier, Debra Stevens had also gone off the topic of Jan Schmidt lying about Doris Hohensee being a “right-wing BOE”:
Debra Stevens [to] Skip. WHY is it that you’ve not interviewed Hohensee? Busy posting my voting record instead? Heaven forbid you “report” something legitimately controversial abt an extremist right-wing BOE member who quotes a known White Supremacist. Were you avoiding that difficult task bc it would surely present a challenge to justify her choices? Seems like chicken sh*t coverage/reporting to me. (Fox “news” does this! Simply doesn’t cover anything not in keeping with their agenda…lol…just keep the viewers from the facts, but I digress.) What was taking up your time instead of interviewing her, ie, what were you posting instead? Go ahead, interview Doris, pls pls pls. Let’s see your challenging questions, too. Pls ask my questions, too, if you are willing to take another’s questions. They are posted above. Let’s see how you challenge Doris’ behavioral choice to ask her raven ADULT followers to harass a student, encourage these adults to offer our student a dose of “heavy backlash”? Also, would you ask her WHO she made this “request” to harass this student to? Don’t we have a rtk? The fb attacks to this student from Hohensee’s request were reported to be vile & aggressive. Her parents as a result sought Police guidance to manage this debacle. Does she have any regrets about her choices? What would she do differently ‘next time’…or would she be willing to ask her friends to offer “heavy back lash” again to another student? She probably would be willing to be 100% transparent. I bet you will have no trouble getting a straight answer from Doris, and therefore set the record straight, too. Should be a good read.
Amazing – it’s like Debra Stevens’ own version of Trump Derangement Syndrome (and the Gun Derangement Syndrome, above) writ small. Bury the original topic with something else and be willing to accuse others (in this case, me) of wrongness because of failure to do (or be?) what they demand:
- Why are you reporting on Jan Schmidt instead of Doris?
- That my coverage of Jan Schmidt is illegitimate and that my not interviewing Doris is a travesty.
- And went back to the falsehood that Doris outed the student when we at GraniteGrok had already done the work to show that the student had, like the Manchester student / Rich Girard kerfuffle, outed herself.
Chaff, pure chaff. Anything but the topic in hand. Oh, yeah another Progressive though this was enough to dismiss Doris totally out of hand:
Alicia Szabo Debra Stevens I would not be surprised. I had heard she was a big supporter of “Stop Common Core” and that she had homeschooled all her children.
And that is to be viewed as “evil” in their eyes. How DARE someone subvert what the Government is supposed to do!
And I have NO idea where this claim from Debra Stevens came from:
Debra Stevens Alicia Szabo. The Crock doesn’t make $ but they are somehow going to come up with thousands of dollars to justify Doris’ outrageous behavioral choices to harass a student that dared to have an opposing opinion! Got it. Good luck with that! Evidently, the Crock has money to BURN… themselves!
Huh? We said that we would be spending thousands of dollars? We certainly don’t make any money (except this month was the FIRST month that a few sponsored ads actually paid for our hosting costs – woo-hoo!); we’re mostly self-funded (with some donations – and some of them quite generous) and none of us get paid. But the crux of her claim is not that we agreed to support Doris (although I might pursue that lie as well) but it is a furtherance of the example of “say anything, go elsewhere” than what is the topic on hand. And to which she had her keyboard slapped by the Admin of the Group (emphasis mine):
Debra Stevens you are over the top, unable to have a normal, civil conversation. This is why I deleted the post. It’s not gun violence. The gun is only the object, you think is the problem…not the people or person yielding it… now, becuase of your lack of ability to be civil with those you disagree with, I feel you are a tremendous part of our political Problem, not resolve…This will be my only post to your angry a**.
There’s a lot more for evidence, not that it would matter to them.
I went up to Porcfest yesterday to do a two-man panel on “Inside or Outside: which is better in influencing political outcomes?” with Bill O’Brien (and of course, now we’ll both be branded as Free Staters even as we both arrived in NH well before that movement started – see below, The Narrative). Of course, being a former NH House Speaker, he had the “Insider roll” and I had the Exernal (being the co-founder of GraniteGrok). It was a long ride and part of it was on this very topic – debating or arguing with Progressives. Conclusion?
It’s almost impossible because of The Narrative. Never can the Narrative be betrayed or altered. Never can evidence be accepted that would expose that Narrative. Never can you stray from that Narrative. The Narrative is to be defended at all times even at the expense of looking stupid (which it generally is). Deflection and making things up to bolster The Narrative’s claims are fine because your opponents are evil and we shouldn’t be talking with them anyways. Misquotes and bad logic are part of the defense of The Narrative.
It’s like Mussolini’s definition of Facism: “All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.” but applied to debate and language.
To be continued.
