So Dan, what say you when Government Teachers openly say they will indoctrinate their students against American Society?

by Skip

Schoolhouseand declare War on American Society as it now stands? And Hunter Dan (aka IWKAGGP aka Dan William, a Govt school music teacher) decided to leave the same comment on my Head Start post and on Steve’s The Left’s War on Education:

So I guess four weeks is the right span of time for the Grok’s 24/7 defense of the 2nd amendment. Now that Lanza’s massacre of our most precious commodity – our children – is past us, it’s time to restart our all-out assault on the nation’s great equalizer.

Right – Head Start has proven to be a failure of an educational program, but with $180 Billion spent since its inception, it has probably turned out to be a GREAT patronage employment scheme.  Steve catches the Left in its own detrius – if it was REALLY for the children, teachers would be all over anything and receptive of anything that actually yielded better educational results for the children (regardless of it being private or public organization, regardless of who does the teaching (union or not), regardless of who owns the building, et al).  Instead, any attempt in searching out better methods than the status quo are quickly demonized.  It’s as if the Teachers Unions believe that they are absolutely entitled to all the K-12 education money (and Hunter Dan’s comments enforce this).  So Dan, in defending the status quo model, must absolutely believe in the Occupy Oakland Teachers (and their demi-God and Obama’s BFF and former SDS / Weatherman / killer / American Society hater, “educator” Bill Ayers (emphasis mine, reformmated):

At least the teachers of Occupy Oakland are finally being honest about their political agenda.  They’re openly calling for an all-out abolition of capitalism.

The Occupy Oakland Education Committee – comprised of public school teachers from the Oakland, California school district – has renamed its publication “ClassRoom Struggle” and its platform TEACH, which stands for “Transform Education, Abolish Capitalism and Heal.”

Finally the radical teachers have acknowledged what we’ve been saying all along: they want to end capitalism and replace it with a socialist economy, quite possibly enforced by a totalitarian form of government.

And this is only possible with the majority model of publicly educating our youngsters being Government schools employing only Union Teachers -Parents want teachers to only teach the subject matter – and leave the “social justice“, secular humanism, and “critical thinking” out (be it in the teachers’ words or “built into” the subject matter that is used in the classrooms).  Often, this results in a belittling of the children beliefs and worldview (as taught by their parents).  And yes, many teachers believe it to BE their responsibility to “reprogram the kids the right thinking way (as I noted from some meetings up in Moultonboro, NH and reports from other parents).

And what, precisely, is their strategy? They tell us that goal number one is to abolish “capitalist schools.”

“What we are calling to abolish is not education but rather capitalism,” the group wrote in a statement. “We see the struggle to abolish capitalist schools as one place where we can begin to chip away at capitalism’s grasp on our society. Capitalist tendencies run deep into the structure and politics of schools.

Well, if it wasn’t for capitalism, there would be no taxes to pay these teachers, would there?  But given that their positions are locked in by contract, and working in Government, they have little idea how their economic world actually works outside of their micro-Ivory Towers.  Little do they know is that if they are successful, they will destroy themselves along with (for it we who pay the taxes have no jobs, they get no money).

Operated the proper way, these schools have a great deal of potential for left-wing causes, according to the Oakland group.

“While public schools have served a role in developing white supremacist, capitalist and imperialist ideology and social structure (for example through segregated schools, tracked programs, mandated pledge of allegiance, etc.), they have also been key sites of struggle and served as assets for movements of working class students of color and other youth struggles,” the group wrote.

The last part is the scariest. They clearly want to encourage rebellious behavior among young student and recruit them into their anti-American movement.

The teachers have an absolute right to subscribe to any silly political theory they choose. That’s one of the great things about living in the country they hate. But many teachers in Oakland and throughout the U.S. have been using their classrooms as “assets” for their radical movements. They seek to brainwash youngsters into hating America and mistrusting the economic system that has given our nation a very high standard of living.

This proves what domestic terrorist-turned-professor Bill Ayers recently said: Radical leftist teachers have a great deal of influence in our schools, and they should use it to further the revolutionary cause.

The media used to report the news – straight up and from the middle.  Objective used to actually mean something.  Teachers actually used to teach – and now we see what they are teaching.  Math, reading, writing – now it is, well, what Second Amendment folks are accused of – revolution.  Except we want to protect the Constitution – and it is clear that Teachers wish to do away with it (that pesky document).  Yo, Danny boy!  And then you wonder why we at the ‘Grok aren’t too enamored with Government Teachers?

SEE THE VIDEO HERE.  America will continue its slide toward socialism as long as radical activists like Ayers and the Oakland teachers are allowed to use our taxpayer-funded schools as bully pulpits and recruiting zones for their movement.

Once again, I repeat what should be true:

Children do not deserve a public education – they DO deserve a publicly funded education that follow them to where ever their best outcome would be.

We should no longer have just a single “one-size-fits-all-kids” monolithic K-12 system that has little change since the 1890s – our kids deserve better – and not with Teachers that are abusing their positions – and abusing their students by not honestly teaching them their proper heritage of the truly radical ideas of our Founders that champions individual Freedom and Liberties.

Government was instituted to protect our Natural and Creator endowed Rights – these Teachers think it is totally proper to hijack that in a building up of a Regressive future, one idea subtracted at a time.

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    What can I say? There’s a lot of messed up teachers out there. And also, you completely misinterpreted my two posts which you reference in this hit piece. But thanks for thinking of me. I’m pleased – if a little creeped out – to know that I fill up so much time and space in your granite-encrusted craniums. For the record,

    1) At our school we say the pledge every morning.

    2) At our school we have many courses on U.S. history, laws and government.

    3) At our school – during our biennial “intersession” – I bring in NH F&G instructors who teach kids about fly fishing. And if the Admin. would let me – I’d teach bow-hunting.

    I am definitely not one of those “liberal socialist indoctrinators” like you claim so many of us are. But go ahead, continue to grab your biggest paintbrush and swipe away!

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    • Hal Graham

      Dan: Glad you are not one of those LSI teachers as you claim. BUT there are many teachers that are and therein lies the problem and the reason for the comments by Skip.

      You did not comment on the “Occupy Oakland Education Comm.” What say you ?.

      • IWKAGGP

        I don’t really have an opinion on the Occupy Oakland Education Comm, other than to say the Occupy Movement is just like the Tea Party Movement – the only difference is that Tea Party protesters pick up after themselves and have better manners.

        • granitegrok

          Hardly….one believes in the Constitution…..the other believes in Lenin and Mao. Not much in common.

          • C. dog e. doG

            And Tea Partiers are self sustaining, whereas Occupods require Grate States to provide them nourishment and shelter due to lack of skill and muscle tone.
            – C. dog late to this party due to very important date

          • IWKAGGP

            “Occupods” LOL!!!! They always seem to be able to acquire one resource for themselves in great abundance – CANABIS SATIVA!


    BTW, it’s W-I-L-L-I-A-M-S, not “William”

    • C. dog e. doG

      By the way, why is W-I-L-L-I-A-M-S afraid of a little competition for scarce educational dollars? Need a government sanctioned and enforced monopoly to sustain your refuge from excellence?
      – C. dog pelting the Flautist with his own detritus


    BTW, it’s W-I-L-L-I-A-M-S, not “William.”

  • Van

    I think it serves no purpose to bash Hunter Dan. I know Hunter Dan and I happen to like him. I really like his willingness to take on the left and expose their ignorance on guns. I do strongly believe that teachers indoctrination is a huge problem in our schools. I was a victim of teachers indoctrination I paid the price of lower grades because of my Conservative/Republican’s believes. I feel the more we expose teacher indoctrination the better because there are a lot of low information voters out their and I put that at the feet of the teachers unions who are not about the children.

    • Van

      GraniteGrok, if you can edit please change the word their to there in the last sentence.

      • IWKAGGP

        Thanks Van, but don’t hold your breath waiting for the Groksters to go any easier on me. Perhaps if you stick around here long enough you’ll realize that, while the Grok’s political bent may be more to your liking than CM’s . . . there’s no way in hell a “Rat Patrol” would ever evolve out of the pages of this blog . . . not in a million years.

        • Van

          Yes, being a Tea Partier I am very comfortable at the Grok. What I have learned is that when we can find common ground we tend to do more building than taring down. I think that is why I like President Ronald Reagan so much because he brought people together from all political strips to accomplish a lot of good things.

          As for teachers, I went to a public school and yes I had some very good teachers. Only a handful in both high school and college pulled the indoctrination crap all liberal indoctrination no conservative indoctrination. I had to stand up to it just like I use to stand up to bullies picking on weak kids.

          • IWKAGGP

            But Van, the groksters don’t know anything about “common ground” and “building up rather than tearing down.” These things are anathema to them. That’s why I worry them and why they spend so much time tearing me down – and will refuse with their last breath to acknowledge that I agree with them on anything – even when I DO agree with them. I’m dangerous to them because unlike the card-carrying, dyed-in-the-blue-wool, liberal democrats who don’t even know Granitegrok exists, I am an intelligent, moderate, reasoned, non-ideological, fiercely-independent voter who agrees with SOME of what they preach but not ALL.

      • granitegrok

        I did – in one place where I can edit comments. It seems obvious that it is also hiding somewhere else I have yet to discover within Disqus….

    • C. dog e. doG

      But why would a most excellent teacher – don’t you know (just ask him) – want to prevent parents from having a choice to which school they send THEIR chilt’ren? Smacks of institutional preservation/wallet stuffing to me. But maybe I’m missing the sub-tle nuance of his missives, much as I dodge the flight of his blunt arrows.
      – C. dog

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