DISQUS Doodlings – Toilet Tyrannies, Socialist Shower Heads, and "Who Chooses?" - Granite Grok

DISQUS Doodlings – Toilet Tyrannies, Socialist Shower Heads, and “Who Chooses?”

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Emphasis mine:

But he [Trump] is a man of action and instructed the EPA and the Department of Energy to change the rules. An energy department spokesperson says “If adopted, this rule would undo the action of the previous Administration and return to Congressional intent, allowing Americans – not Washington bureaucrats – to choose what kind of showerheads they have in their homes.”

Other than “What is the Proper Role of Government”, this may well be the most important question you should always ask about Government Constitutional restrictions and actual reality of its actions: Who Chooses? It used to be we ourselves – now, we don’t. Doubt me? Then answer this: what area in your life is free from Government intrusion. Name one – I dare you to come up with even one.  For me, I’m sufficiently an adult to choose for myself – and suffer the consequences for my actions (or lack thereof). The TreeHugger eco-Socialists denizens, however, are all up in arms in that Trump decided that YOU should choose what is best for you rather than Government. You see, they may trust themselves and those professing the same religious dogma but not anyone else. How DARE anyone wish to be different? WHY shouldn’t our shared misery be mandatory?

So in the comment section, yet another “lively” discussion between the Socialist misery lovers versus we Happy Warrior Free Market / Freedom folks. And VB starts off with a touch of Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals (e.g., make them live up to their own Rule Book). First the normal sneer at capitalism in which we all get to choose for ourselves (reformatted, emphasis mine):

fcfcfc:   “What’s the Problem?”  Profit….

For the sake of reference, pretty much all of them hate the idea that someone can make a profit – an “advantage over someone else” goes their thinking rather than accepting (and raising!) the idea that successful people make life easier for the rest of us by SERVING us. And while Capitalism is the best strategy for allocating scarce resources thus devised, the eco-Socialists automatically believe such scarcity should be a Collective decision (you know, the Power hungry cabal that always rises to the top of Selfish Socialist Government):

Richard Gore:  It’s so assuring to know that our president is concerned about having perfect hair. Which is more important, perfect hair or limiting the spread of coronavirus and protecting our limited water supply.

Yeah, once again (if you go to the post), another example of not understanding satire or “getting” a joke. It is rather amusing to watch them twist in their own rage’s wind. VB steps in, takes a shot of “not Government – private property and personal responsibility”. You could also throw in “Individualism vs the Collect” shade as well:

Vindaloo Bugaboo:  I don’t get this banning thing at all. I, the end consumer, pay for these shower devices, the water, and the energy to heat it. No one but I bear that burden. Why must I be forced into how I choose to spend my money?

Oh, and before anyone wants to argue about how wasteful it is, ask yourself this: why aren’t they regulating bathtubs like they do showerheads?

He’s right – a dig at their inconsistency as bathtubs oft use a LOT more water than a showerhead or toilet. Gallons upon gallons to get started and then as the water cools, run that hot water spigot again. After all, a “soak” isn’t a soak if it lasts just a couple of minutes, right? But then again, the “Everything is commonly owned” idea cropped up and didn’t like my retort:

Meira Hertzberg:   The tragedy of the commons.  Read Nobel Prize winner’s book Governing the Commons

Yeah, yeah, yeah – and we know how well that worked out for the Pilgrims, didn’t we? Everything was held in common and nobody put out the effort required to keep things going (e.g., too many people IN the wagon and not enough PULLING / PUSHING the wagon) until Governor Bradford made almost everything privately owned…and the people were saved. And I decided to muddy up their Narrative’s water:

GraniteGrok:  That’s why Private Property is a superior model.

Well, wasn’t too well received and one of the most staunchest Socialists decided to ride into the fray – and right into the Economics Trap:

Robert du Lac: Yes, humanity truly prospered during the era of Crown Land.

GraniteGrok: Yeah, those societies that adopted the “everyone owns everything always” (aka, Communitarian, Socialism, and Communism) brought just so MANY people out of abject poverty. There’s a reason why so many people have been lifted out of such misery – and its not the aforementioned economic systems. Have an issue with that? Give me examples to the opposite. Even here in the US, there’s hardly a commune that made it even past a decade.

Having no answer, he still tried “Straw man non-sequitur”. And then another decided to use the “White Europeans killed the Native Americans” schtick. I dunno about you all, but I’m rather tired of these Wokretards trying their feeblest to get me to feel guilty. First, I’m not going to be because NO ONE should ever assume Collective Guilt of others way back in the mists of history at some point. Like you had a say in what they did? Lame brains get another dose of Alinsky:

Matt Hermenau: Try telling that to all of the dead Native Americans who were murdered in search of your “private property”.

GraniteGrok:  I’ll go politically incorrect (well, to be truthful, I won’t – it’s a constant state of being). Being that I was born on American soil to two American citizens, I, too, am a native American. And if that doesn’t toast your cookies, let me play by the New Rules that the Left has set: I identify as a Native American so who are you to judge me!

But back to the point – once again, another New Rule from the Left – that ALL of history MUST be view from the current view of the Left as it is today…this morning…this hour…this minute. Or whenever the Left wants to change its New Rule. You left out that a lot of Native Americans were killed by other Native Americans in their own wars over land / territory / whatever – am I supposed to feel guilt over that as well?  Short answer is the same as my outlook over your statement – rejected.

And then back to the actual lie of the post – that water is a limited resource. Taken literally, it isn’t.

Vindaloo Bugaboo:     We’re on a planet that’s literally drowning in water. False flag.

GraniteGrok:  VB, they just don’t like you here with the 3 down votes. But, on the science part, you are right – there’s more area of water than dry land.

Vindaloo Bugaboo:   10% of the surface is locked in ice, 70% is under oceans, and across vast swaths of the planet rain falls to such an extent it’s measured in feet, not inches. NASA estimates 495,000 CUBIC KILOMETERS of water moves through the atmosphere every year. To all the downvoting butthurt Disqus users, that’s an intractable and inconvenient fact they DON’T want to hear.

There is no shortage of water; there’s a shortage of adequate storage and utilization.

Now, POTABLE water is another story but often is a limited resource.. And at least in California, that’s a shining example of an answer that that has gone unanswered. Former CA Guv Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown stopped what his dad (also a former CA Guv) had started – recognizing that potable water was a scarce resource not to be wasted (like flushing bait fish out to the sea instead of growing crops to feed people) and had a lot of civil engineering done to capture and then redistribute water all over the State. Unfortunately, OTHER Enviros demanding “environmentalism” stopped further production of such under Moonbeam’s regime yet the State kept adding people who needed more water.

Progressive policies #FAIL. Loved the tax monies but hate the people who needed water.

Now, I don’t put these DISQUS Doodlings up just for my own enjoyment – I’m hoping that it gives some insight as to how these Socialist think and how they view the world – it is FAR different than yours and mine.  I want you to see how they argue and how they respond – and generally, they can’t effectively answer directly (sorta like Bruce Currie).

Next post will be VB and I still having a bit of our own conversation and they TRIED to keep up.

And then the last part is about Rights and freedom from government. The entire reason I go there.

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