Are Out-Of-State Voters Determining NH Elections?

by Kimberly Morin

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Yesterday, a report was released that there were over 6,500 voters in the 2016 election who used out-of-state driver’s licenses to vote in New Hampshire. Of that number of voters, over 5,300 had not established residency in the state by getting a New Hampshire driver’s license as of August 31, 2017.

It’s actually state law that if you move to the state with the intent on staying in the state, you must give up your former driver’s license and get a New Hampshire driver’s license within 60 days. The 5,300 who voted with out-of-state drivers’ licenses in the 2016 election never established residency. Either they weren’t ever going to establish residency or they broke the law.

What this means is what many in the Granite State have witnessed and long been fighting against – “drive-by” out-of-state voters are voting by the thousands and stealing the votes of actual New Hampshire residents.

It was Speaker of the New Hampshire House, Shawn Jasper, who requested the information from the Secretary of State and Department of Safety. Earlier in the day yesterday, the house released the following information:

Among the information provided by the departments are the following statistics:

6540 individuals registered to vote on November 8th, 2016 using an out-of-state driver’s license.

As of August 30th, 2017, only 1014 (15.5%) of those voters had been issued a New Hampshire driver’s license.

As of August 31, 2017, of the remaining 5526 individuals, only 3.3% had registered a motor vehicle in New Hampshire.

As of August 31, 2017, 5313 (81.2%) of the individuals who used an out-of-state driver’s license had neither held a New Hampshire driver’s license nor had registered a vehicle in New Hampshire.

196 names on the checklist are being investigated as possibly having voted in New Hampshire and one other state.

In a state where Hillary Clinton only won by 2,700 votes; Maggie Hassan only won her senate seat by a little over 1,000 votes and some local races were literally won by only a few votes, this proves the point that New Hampshire indeed has an issue with drive-by voters.

For years, many Republicans have been trying to shore up the voter laws because of these issues and they are supported by a majority of actual voters in the state. Democrats do everything possible to destroy voter integrity in New Hampshire and have out-of-state organizations helping spread false information and lies in order to deceive residents.

Democrats and the media continually try to tell Granite Staters that drive-by voting doesn’t exist but the evidence is loud and clear based on the latest release of information. This is nothing new to actual New Hampshire residents who, like a majority of Americans, don’t believe there is “honesty in elections.”

Will elected officials and election officials finally start taking voters seriously or will they make up excuses and continue to allow out-of-state voters to determine election outcomes in the Granite State? It probably depends on their party affiliation.

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  • Ed Naile

    Real simple:
    An out of state license means another state recognizes you for driving and tax purposes – states that have income taxes align the DMV and income tax lists to find citizens liable for state income taxes.
    So….
    Statutory Construction
    21:6 Resident; Inhabitant. – A resident or inhabitant or both of this state and of any city, town or other political subdivision of this state shall be a person who is domiciled or has a place of abode or both in this state and in any city, town or other political subdivision of this state, and who has, through all of his actions, demonstrated a current intent to designate that place of abode as his principal place of physical presence for the indefinite future to the exclusion of all others.
    Motor Vehicle:
    Section 259:88
    259:88 Resident. – “Resident” shall mean a resident of the state as defined in RSA 21:6, except that no person shall be deemed to be a resident who claims residence in any other state for any purpose.

    This isn’t rocket science difficult – its corruption.

    • You can become a legal resident of a new state without trading in your old driver’s license or ID. A lot of college students don’t own cars, so they don’t bother with new ID when they go to out-of-state schools. They can legally rent property, vote, and do all sorts of fun stuff.

      If the state has a law that you’re supposed to get a new ID after being there for x days (nothing but a revenue stream for the state, but that’s another topic), someone who votes under those conditions hasn’t broken any voter laws, even if the grace period has expired.

      The income tax reference is irrelevant because not all states have income taxes, and not all voters have income (a few voters here included, I’m sure).

      The only people who even consider voter fraud to be a significant issue are right-wing Internet lunatics. Right-wing Internet lunatics have been screaming about voter fraud for years and years and insisting there is all sort of evidence that Democrats are winning rigged elections, and yet no one, including people in far more strategic positions than whack job bloggers, has found this evidence. Still, these loons seem honestly confused that no one is agreeing with them

      It’s like the equally dishonest screaming these lunatics do about other things, like abortion clinics, evolutionary science, Obama being a Muslim/Kenyan, and Benghazi. Once something is clearly in the realm of conspiracy nonsense, it makes a great deal of sense to distance yourself from it. But those here seem intent on embracing the opposite strategy, and avoiding aligning yourselves with anything sensible at all costs.

      • Bruce Currie

        Great post! Thanks for chiming in. Though it won’t make a whit of difference to the regulars on here–a number about as small as the number of real voter fraud cases in NH over the last several election cycles

      • Ed Naile

        What law says you can have a Pa. driver’s license and vote in NH?

        Chapter 25 of Pa. Election Law says you lose residency in the Commonwealth if you vote in another state – that is why I turn them in.

        South Carolina Law Title 7
        Universal Citation: SC Code § 7-1-25 (2016)
        (A) A person’s residence is his domicile. “Domicile” means a person’s fixed home where he has an intention of returning when he is absent. A person has only one domicile.
        (B) For voting purposes, a person has changed his domicile if he (1) has abandoned his prior home and (2) has established a new home, has a present intention to make that place his home, and has no present intention to leave that place.
        (In S.C. the definition of domicile and residence is the same – just like NH where we pretend RSA 21:6 doesn’t exist.)
        So If Jeemo Raybo gives students his version of the law and they get caught, what does he care. His candidate already got that vote.

  • Bruce Currie

    Kris Kobach, the vice-chair of Trump’s commission, and a principal source of the claims of voter fraud here, is a serial liar. He has made repeated claims of widespread voter fraud that don’t hold up to scrutiny. His most recent claims about NH are of a piece with past claims. Kobach is a right-wing demagogue and a political opportunist–which earns him plaudits here–but should disqualify him from the commission. No amount of counter-factual information will alter Kobach’s tune. His real intent–and that of such claimants generally– is to make it harder for the poor and minorities to vote. Voter suppression, along with gerrymandering of districts to give right-wing politicians safe seats, is being done all over the country, using claims of rampant voter fraud as justification. Kobach’s own sleazy record is detailed (in part) below:

    “…After assuming office, Kobach repeatedly petitioned the legislature to give him something granted to no other secretary of state in the country: the power to prosecute election law violations. Actual prosecutors warned legislators that the power to bring charges should not be handed over to someone whose office is not part of criminal law enforcement. In pursuit of this prosecutorial power, Kobach told lawmakers he knew of 18 cases of “double voting,” and that more than 100,000 people were registered to vote in Kansas and another state. He reportedly claimed he knew of 100 cases of voter fraud in the state. Based on these assertions, lawmakers granted Kobach this power in 2015. Yet, at the time of the announcement of the presidential commission, he had obtained a grand total of nine convictions in just under two years.

    “Meanwhile, Kobach continues to use his position as secretary of state to make unsupported allegations of voter fraud. Kobach, as Kansas’s chief election official and a longtime participant in the public discussion over election integrity, knows better than anyone the truth about voter fraud: it is very, very rare. When it does happen, it is at times the work of insiders, such as party officials or election volunteers. Voting by those who are not U.S. citizens — a longtime fixation of Kobach’s — is, while not non-existent, rare. Impersonation fraud, where one goes to the polls to cast a vote as another person, is rarer still, as all studies and court opinions reviewing the matter have concluded.

    “Nevertheless, the secretary has continued to make fraud allegations. Oftentimes, these assertions have gone far beyond Kansas. For example, in 2010, Kobach claimed 11,805 noncitizens were registered in Colorado and 4,947 voted. After further investigation, the purported number of potential noncitizen registrants was reduced to 155, and the supposed number of those who voted was reduced to 35.”
    https://www.brennancenter.org/blog/uncovering-kris-kobach’s-anti-voting-history
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/…/kris-kobachs-leap…/…

    • Ed Naile

      Bad Kobach!
      Bad Kobach!
      Bad Kobach!
      Thanks for your input.
      Halliburton

      • Bruce Currie

        Heere’s Eddie…New Hampshire’s own version of Kris Kobach, whose own long history of extravagant claims of rampant voter fraud precedes him. Are you in double figures yet on actual voter fraud? It might help if you counted GOP efforts as well as Democrat one. As for the real fraud–voter suppression by the GOP–it doesn’t even exist in Eddie’s World.

        • Kimberly Kma Morin

          You really, really aren’t the brightest bulb Bruce….. Of course, you AGREE with Democrats that out-of-state voters should vote in NH; otherwise, you’d be outraged like a MAJORITY of actual NH residents are…

          Your rock is calling…

          • Bruce Currie

            Students attending college in NH are legally entitled to vote in NH. Groksters are attempting to suppress their vote with extraordinary claims because they don’t like the fact students tend to vote for Democrats in the purple state of NH.

            “Domicile
            New Hampshire driver’s license listing the address the voter claims as his/her voting domicile; motor vehicle registration; or government issued photo ID with current address; any other proof accepted as reasonable by the supervisors of the checklist or a domicile affidavit.

            “Check with the town or city clerk in the municipality where you plan to register to determine if that town/city has adopted a list of alternative documents that will be accepted as presumptive proof of domicile. Some towns accept forms issued by your college or university. You can find your clerk’s contact information here.

            “If you do not have these forms of identification which prove identity, domicile, citizenship and age or all of these, you may complete a domicile affidavit, and/or a qualified voter affidavit.
            http://sos.nh.gov/CollegeStudent.aspx

          • Ed Naile

            Oh, so you quote part of the NH SoS web site?
            Ya missed this part:
            “Students attending college in New Hampshire from other states may also have the right to vote by absentee ballot from their hometown in their home state. If you are considering requesting an absentee ballot from any state, including New Hampshire, you should check with the town or city clerk or another appropriate local election official to determine the timeline for requesting and submitting such ballot.”
            News flash:
            The domicile definition you quote from a web site is what one? Name the statute.
            And while you are at it:
            What is the definition of the phrase “voting domicile” the NH SoS web site uses? Students have two domiciles – one for voting and one for?
            As a NH citizen I have one domicile – the one I use for everything. But you describe two ways of having a domicile for a student – from out of state.
            And how do I suppress the vote of an out-of-state student who has the duty to vote absentee in his legal domicile.?
            If you come up with a plausible answer Ray Buckley, The League of Women Voters, and the NH ACLU can use it.
            Let me guess, its on HuffPo.

          • Bruce Currie

            Nothing in your reply alters the fact NH college students are legally entitled to vote here. You don’t like the law–that’s clear. But to claim such voting is “fraud” is to distort the meaning of the word. Making extravagant claims that are false is classic “Big Lie” propaganda strategy: repeat a lie often enough, and people believe it. You and Kris Kobach are masters of the practice.

          • Ed Naile

            The big lie is that non-residents can vote here – legally.
            You do not have a single statute that says a college student can have an out of state driver’s license and be a legal resident of NH. There are requirements to vote legally in any state in Federal elections.
            College students do not have “special privileges” for dual residency or mobile domiciles or voting domiciles because newspapers and the misleading SoS web site says so.
            That is a dual standard and as unconstitutional as double standards for race.
            That is why you can’t address any law I quoted or legitimate court case.

          • Bruce Currie

            If they attend college in NH, college students are legally entitled to vote here, as is true in many states. Your own repeated claims of rampant voter fraud made over several election cycles have been shown to be without merit. When you don’t get your way, you impugn the integrity of NH election officials and judges. And you still can’t bring yourself to even acknowledge the existence of longstanding efforts by the GOP to make it ever more difficult for the young, the old, and minorities to vote.

          • Ed Naile

            “Shown to be without merit.”
            Funny how I put the picture of a vote thief on the internet and write about them and they don’t think like you do. I even contact their home state where they are domiciled and not one has had the guts to have an attorney stop me (discovery).
            Recently an out-of-state voter I wrote about contacted Rich Girard to demand her name not be used. She claims to be a NH resident for voting.
            But after finding out I had a form she filled out in Pennsylvania registering her fictitious business address to he home in New Jersey – no more calls.
            If I was suppressing any qualified NH voter the AG would be knocking on my door. In 17 years, no knock.
            No voter fraud = no voter suppression?
            Why is that Bruce?
            Maybe fraudsters think I have merit. I guess that’s all that matters.

          • Bruce Currie

            And those voter fraud cases, over many years, number in the low double digits–if you include Republicans. One more time: the real fraud here is the on-going effort to make wildly exaggerated claims about the extent of voter fraud–like GG posting a picture of a “bus” (actually a van) allegedly used to transport Massachusetts voters to NH to vote illegally. How’d that one work out?

            The on-going efforts since at least 2000, in red states north, south, east, and west to cull voter rolls, cut back hours, and reduce the number of polling places–especially in minority districts–are intended not make voting more ‘secure”, but to place barriers in the way of the voting rights of the elderly, the young, the poor, and minorities. Because they don’t vote the “right”way.

          • Ed Naile

            And still you can’t name a single qualified voter who has ever had his vote suppressed by any action you have mentioned.
            Eric Holder was constantly filing cases against voter ID laws in state after state but never had a defendant.
            Ever notice you are just about the only person defending voter fraud?
            I name names, have proof of a busload of illegal voters, and other groups of non-resident voters – plus the testimony of Bill Gardner and you come up with nothing.

  • Michael

    It has ZERO to do with disenfranchising poor and indigent voters and EVERYTHING to do with ensuring the integrity of the democratic process. Stop conflating and obfuscating the facts.

    • Ed Naile

      Michael:
      Ever notice how when the law is so simple anyone can read and comprehend it, the progressives try and change the subject.
      It is this simple:
      My civil right to a fair election is violated by out of state voters and all the enablers of voter fraud.
      Vote where you live or get exposed and or prosecuted.

  • Ed Naile

    Here is what NH is doing – in the name of “residence” means “domicile” and you can have a second “voting domicile” if you want to and keep an out-of-state driver’s license:
    US Code 52 ; 10307
    (c) False information in registering or voting; penalties
    Whoever knowingly or willfully gives false information as to his name, address or period of residence in the voting district for the purpose of establishing his eligibility to register or vote, or conspires with another individual for the purpose of encouraging his false registration to vote or illegal voting, or pays or offers to pay or accepts payment either for registration to vote or for voting shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both: Provided, however, That this provision shall be applicable only to general, special, or primary elections held solely or in part for the purpose of selecting or electing any candidate for the office of President, Vice President, presidential elector, Member of the United States Senate, Member of the United States House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, Guam, or the Virgin Islands.

  • GREYGHOSTCSA

    Another aspect of this problem is that non-resident students at UNH, Keene State and Plymouth State (to make it simple so that even people like Bruce can understand the concept, a non-resident student is defined as one who is paying non-resident tuition, and thus defined by the college administration as a non-resident of the state of New Hampshire) under our current laws are being allowed to vote in our elections. Apparently even though they are smart enough to be admitted as students at these three institutions of higher learning, they are not smart enough to understand the concept of a absentee ballot, which members of our armed forces serving oversees have to utilize in order to vote.

    • Ed Naile

      To get in-state tuition a student has to sign a domicile affidavit provided by the college – and have it notarized. Since the can’t do that if they have no proof of a legal domicile in this state…….we let them vote???
      There is no law that allows a non-resident to vote in NH. It would be illegal in a Federal Election and unconstitutional.

  • So in other words, no evidence of voter fraud, widespread or even isolated.

    • Radical Moderate

      People who vote in one state while claiming residence in another is voter fraud plain and simple.
      One of the main reasons absentee voting was created by our government was to allow college students from one state to vote in their home state elections which protects their right of representation where they are being legally counted by the US Census for purposes of counting the electorate to determine the number of representatives and/or senators.
      If you can’t understand that then you’re a Jeemo.

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