Shopping for self pleasure, not want or need.
Well, he took the bait and answer my question of “And how is “shopping for pleasure” different than “want”? I see no difference at all”. I still see no real difference between want and “self pleasure” – you’re still buying a product and in this case, fashion items. Now, me no know fashion from shinola – I generally don’t care unless it is for professional reasons in meeting with clients so I don’t have a dog in the actual fight of why H&M is tubing itself. I do have problems with activists going after companies simply to give them hard times based on difference on ideologies. But he did answer back; and I’m still puzzled over a distinction without a difference:
You can very easily buy stuff you neither want nor need if the reason you shop is for the rush or whatever you get from the shopping experience. I am by no means the first to identify this “shopping for neither want nor need”.
Thus shopping for pleasure is clearly a problem.
<shaking my head slowly> So WHAT if you want “a rush”? My Youngest is an adrenaline junkie – he does stuff that I’d never do because he enjoys the feeling of what is happening. What causes that rush is sometimes immaterial – merely collateral. Now, that has led to bad outcomes but that’s another story. The fact is, doing something that’s legal that also produces a rush is not illegal. It’s not even immoral – unless you are apparently Chris Howard. Methinks he doesn’t have a rush problem but a Catch-22 problem (sorta sideways). I do believe his REAL problem is that of being a stealth Puritan who hates capitalism, but that’s just me. But I did respond (emphasis mine):
Easy to buy stuff” – a function of our capitalist system which I maintain is a feature and not a bug. So what if it is for “a rush” – it still is a form of “want“.
So what if that is what “motivates” someone to purchase something? They’ve indicated to the market that they want a particular good or service and are willing to voluntarily exchange money at that given price point for a legal transaction.
Why should that be a concern for anyone else – unless of course, one holds capitalism in great distaste, even worse for inexpensive goods, and the idea that people want to buy things that you disapprove of?
and also added:
Let me also add this – again, if someone is willing to voluntarily enter into a legal transaction but in your eyes lacks the self-control to NOT do that transaction – what is that a problem for me?
Or better, why is it your business to make it your problem?
So, where am I wrong?