"Could Moderate Republicans Join With Democrats to Elect a Speaker? One Member Floats the Idea" - Granite Grok

“Could Moderate Republicans Join With Democrats to Elect a Speaker? One Member Floats the Idea”

US House Speaker GavelWith the advent of the US House Republicans caving into Paul Ryan’s demands in order to just get a new Speaker to replace John Boehner

Sidenote: why is it that Republicans hate to fight ANYone for principles?

Sidenote: except, of course, when it is Establishment fight TEA Party folks – then it seems the fight is more determined than against Democrats

this may be a bit passe, but still bears note.  What if a renegade left-of-center Republican (or just Establishment trying to deny conservatives a seat at the table?) did exact that – a “compromise” with those that hate limited government, self-responsibility principles? (Emphasis mine, reformatted):

If Republicans struggle in the coming weeks to unite around a candidate to become the next speaker of the House, some GOP lawmakers are warning that Democrats may be required to elect the winner. Though many Republicans would consider that to be a nightmare scenario, some centrists view it as a political necessity if a group of conservatives choose to reject the majority’s choice for speaker.

Given that most conservatives actually believe that Principles do matter (versus just the “win”), it would be a nightmare scenario.  Already the base is pissed that the Overton Window NEVER seems to move rightward – only in the direction of those that hate true American principles of SELF-Government (versus the collective) and self-sovereignty (no, not the “sovereign citizen” movement which is nothing more than anarchy but where the government is subservient to individual rights).  But in this respect, we can see that the Establishment is willing, politically, to make a deal with those that they cried out to us (the electorate) “help us beat them!!”.  And we did – but then they are going to turn around and do the exact opposite??

“What part of math don’t people understand?” said Rep. Charlie Dent, R-Pa., in an interview with The Daily Signal. “I am pointing out the obvious. If we have 30-50 members who won’t vote for the choice of the conference, by necessity we will need Democratic votes. If they want to exercise a veto, that’s the attitude that could force our conference into a bipartisan coalition for a Republican speaker.”

Right, “forcing” into a compromise.  Compromise is not necessarily a bad thing, but what seems to be on the short end of the stick are the Republican ideas and not the Democrats – that scale isn’t level.  This is EXACTLY like the situation I’ve written about loads of times here on the ‘Grok – when “social services organizations” come begging to politicians (here in NH, either up at the State House or to the Budget Committees at the town level to get those “blessings” of tax monies) instead of doing the hard work of doing “the ask” of, you know, individuals by calling or going door-to-door.  I see the same thing here – instead of working with those that ostensibly are part of their own conference, they’ll do the EASIER thing and go approach “the other side”.

Or, is it really “the other side”?  Is this a confirmation of what we’ve been seeing and saying for years – that there ARE Republican that are more philosophically aligned with the Left Democrats than what the Party will allow to?  That RINOs, which the Party Establishment vehemently exclaim don’t exist, do?

But if Democrats were inspired to vote for the Republican speaker instead — perhaps because the favored candidate is more moderate and would agree to concessions — that could limit the authority of conservative opponents.

And isn’t that the point?

After all, here in NH, we saw this happen this cycle with Shawn Jasper reaching out and depending on the Democrats to ascend to the Speakership over Bill O’Brien.  Since then, we have seen him and his leadership team vote AGAINST their own base more often than any of the base would like to see.  You see, you do have to dance with the ones that brung you and it is easy to see the difference between what a Bill O’Brien Speakership had with respect to fulfilling Republican ideals than what we have seen with the Democrat-appointed-Speaker Jassper.

Given last cycle for the NH Speakership, wouldn’t it be just grand to find out what those “concessions” were for Jasper?  We’ve seen the ghosts of such when we’ve seen purely Republican issues go ghost during last year’s session in the House.  We’ve also seen “caving in” happen – like with the budget where Gov. Hassan (D) only had to throw a veto and sputter for a while and the Republican leadership then pretty much gave her almost everything she wanted.  Oh sure, lots of verbiage thrown up and out from the Rs, but you, dear readers, know better than to listen to that – watch for the results.

The fact the House Republicans (and Dent is about is Establishment cemented, willing to make deals as they get) would even consider it says truckloads.

Truckloads of what, I leave to you to decide.

 

 

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