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Treehugger time – You proles don’t pay enough for your food!

prime ribOnce again, you have been put on the Alter of GAIA and about to be sacrificed, you infidel of the Cult of Beef & Dairy.  Katherine Martinko over at TH has a post listing a couple of studies saying how bad the beef and dairy industries are for planet (yes, global warming.  Not again – always).  That’s not the worst of it by a long shot – it is the attitude that she shows towards those that won’t adopt a diversity of thought – primarily hers.  Yes, one thought, one outlook – and brands those that don’t want to agree with her as heretics and selfish subhumans (what, like we haven’t seen this Progressive “I know better than you what is best for you!” snoot nosiness?

A couple of snippets (emphasis mine):

Despite the fact that livestock production contributes more greenhouse gas emissions than the entire transport sector, there is an appalling unwillingness to change eating habits in order to make a difference.

And this: 

It is a forgotten sector largely because nobody wants to think about it. With seemingly unlimited access to products that once were considered special treats (i.e. individual Americans ate 7 pounds of cheese in 1970 but now eat 30 pounds per year on average), and easy accessibility to those products in every supermarket at inappropriately low prices, and the fact that meat and dairy products do taste delicious – to most people, at least – nobody wants to pay attention to the facts.

and then puts the knife through our beef loving hearts:

What should be a simple and straightforward solution to a very serious problem – “stop eating meat and dairy” – is made far more complicated by our societal attachment to foods as cultural traditions and our general sense of entitlement toward food. We residents of North American and Europe, in particular, assume we can eat anything we want, whenever we want it, irrespective of the staggering damage it may cause the planet.

Now, we’ve all pretty much commented on the fact that global warming has had an 18 year plus “hiatus” that none of the global warming / cooling / change / disruption / extreme weather models predicted – but that’s not the reason for this post.  As I said, this Ms. Martinko’s post is just dripping with condescension for those that do not share her beliefs.  Liberal ones which used to mean a REAL diversity of thought but ONLY one is acceptable.  Coming from a fundamentalist church when I was young, her attitude is “Thou shalt believe or be condemned to fire and brimstone for eternity – YOU SINNERS!”.  Her heterodoxy is plain: accept my facts or be guilty of killing the planet (actually, the planet won’t die even if she is right – GAIA would “live on” but just in a different manner).

It IS clear that our choice of food comestibles is sinful to her to the point where she has made the decision we should not have access to all the food we do now and certainly not the price at which it is offered at (although, I think that hamburger at $5 plus is starting to be in her wheelhouse, just like when Obama’s energy and environment minions said they’d be happy with $8, $9, or $10 / gallon for gas).

So I decided, POLITELY, ask her reasoning on one point of her post:

From: “skipdcm” <Skip@GraniteGrok.com>
To: knmartinko@gmail.com
Sent: 12/23/2014 2:32:27 PM
Subject: Your post at Treehugger – seeking clarification

Good afternoon,

I am a semi-regular reader of TreeHugger and read your latest post:  http://www.treehugger.com/green-food/meat-and-dairy-are-heating-planet-nobody-seems-care.html

To be sure, we are on opposite sides of this issue but I’d still like to ask a question, in good faith, on a part of your post:

It is a forgotten sector largely because nobody wants to think about it. With seemingly unlimited access to products that once were considered special treats (i.e. individual Americans ate 7 pounds of cheese in 1970 but now eat 30 pounds per year on average), and easy accessibility to those products in every supermarket at inappropriately low prices, and the fact that meat and dairy products do taste delicious – to most people, at least – nobody wants to pay attention to the facts.

I am curious – can I ask what your definition of that bolded phrase?  What would appropriate prices be – and would that be overall or just on selected items?  And what would your preferred mechanism be for raising those prices – structuring it so that farmers must pay higher prices to farm upfront?  Or increase costs on the rest of the logistics chain and leaving the farmers whole?  Or would it be that only the end consumers would pay a heightened cost?

Of course, I’d be interested in why you think low prices are not a public good in the first place – your article does imply it (CO2 emissions, global warming in the macro) but there may be others that went unstated or quietly implied.

Appreciate your time.

– Skip
GraniteGrok.com
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Well, as you can see by the time stamp, I’ve been patient.  Quite patient, I would believe.  Or perhaps, given that I was in Ms. Martinko’s “sanctuary of GAIA” where there is only The One Truth, I was into deep into meditation awaiting her homily on my email generated by her sermon (OK, I managed both Catholic and Protestant sects here – that count?).  Sorry, but GAIA’s representative never answered.  Was that, in itself, an answer from on High?

Nope, no GAIA Enlightenment for me.  Had more of the beef stew that TMEW made – DELICIOUS!  Doing a steak tomorrow nite.  Beef tacos last nite (hey, does the lettuce, onions, and tomatoes provide propitiation for the meat sin)?  ‘Fraid not, I presume.  And there are no indulgences that would mitigate much at all for me, I guess (although the High Priest of Warmist, Al Gore, has certainly made a ton of money from collecting CO2 versions – enough to have private jets, ginormous SUVs, and homes that would cover a city block).

Naw, I sinned – killed a cow for a chewable good time.  Now, I’ll spend an epoch in her Purgatory – gosh, will it be long enough such that I’ll see another Ice Age (after all, climate change HAS had more than a few of them over the millennia)?

OK, pull it together, Skip – back on topic:

What is it with these Authoritarian people that hate the rest of us so much that have no problem in lowering our standard of living just to make THEM feel better?

Where’s your empathy for the People, lady?  Don’t their thoughts count too?

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