Establishing a committee to study the correlation between current New Hampshire law and the low violent crime rate in this state. - Granite Grok

Establishing a committee to study the correlation between current New Hampshire law and the low violent crime rate in this state.

The process of ending HB 1589 began with the vote to amend the bill and turn it into a committee to  study the correlation between current New Hampshire law and the low violent crime rate in this state.

Democrats cry, and whine, and demand, and spout their talking points about guns and background checks, misrepresenting facts at every turn, but the biggest barrier is their inability or unwillingness to explain why states with the strictest gun laws have more crime while states like New Hampshire and Vermont (with very loose or open gun laws) consistently have the lowest violent crime rates in the nation.

Turns out, most NH Democrats still don’t want to look at that.  They were happy to kill it altogether rather than subject themselves to the reality.  New Hampshire’s low crime rate has a lot to do with its strong defense of second amendment rights.

Here’s the Bill docket.

2/10/2014 H Minority Committee Report: Inexpedient to Legislate
2/12/2014 H Lay on Table (Rep. Baldasaro) MF Div 163-165
2/12/2014 H Adopt Amendment #0371h (New Title) AA RC 174-166
2/12/2014 H Floor Amendment #2014-0467h (New Title) (Rep. Hoell) AA RC 177-175
2/12/2014 H Lay on Table (Rep. Butler) MF Div 173-183
2/12/2014 H Indefinitely Postpone (Rep. Lambert) MF Div 133-226
2/12/2014 H Ought to Pass with Amendment #0467h MF Div 165-195
2/12/2014 H Inexpedient to Legislate (Rep. Chandler) MA Div 242-118
2/12/2014 H Reconsider (Rep. Chandler) MF Div 113-244

Amendment #2014-0467h

AN ACT  establishing a committee to study the correlation between current New Hampshire law and the low violent crime rate in this state.

Amend the bill by replacing all after the enacting clause with the following:

­1  Committee Established.  There is established a committee to study the correlation between current New Hampshire law and the low violent crime rate in this state.

­2  Membership and Compensation.

I.  The members of the committee shall be as follows:

(a)  Six members of the house of representatives, 3 of whom shall be from the majority party, appointed by the speaker of the house of representatives, and 3 of whom shall be from the minority party, appointed by the minority leader of the house of representatives.

(b)  One member of the senate, appointed by the president of the senate.

II.  Members of the committee shall receive mileage at the legislative rate when attending to the duties of the committee.

­3  Duties.  The committee shall:

I.  Study the correlation between current New Hampshire law and the low violent crime rate in this state.

II.  Study whether stricter gun control laws are effective at reducing the violent crime rate in this state.

III.  Review and study national and state publications related to the correlation between stricter gun control measures and the violent crime rate in this state, including data and reports published by the Federal Bureau of Investigation relating to the correlation between stricter gun control legislation and the violent crime rate in this state.  The committee shall also review publications by law enforcement departments, including the Police One survey on the potential effects of proposed gun laws on reducing violent crime.

IV.  Investigate the gun control measures in Connecticut and Massachusetts to understand the correlation between stricter regulatory controls and higher crime rates.

V.  Study the effectiveness of our current criminal justice system in prosecuting violent criminals.

­4  Chairperson; Quorum.  The members of the study committee shall elect a chairperson from among the members.  The first meeting of the committee shall be called by the first-named house member.  The first meeting of the committee shall be held within 45 days of the effective date of this section.  Four members of the committee shall constitute a quorum.

­5  Report.  The committee shall report its findings and any recommendations for proposed legislation to the speaker of the house of representatives, the president of the senate, the house clerk, the senate clerk, the governor, and the state library on or before November 1, 2014.

­6  Effective Date.  This act shall take effect upon its passage.

 

Votes against the motion to amend it to a study committee.

House Rep Party County District Vote
Alicea, Caroletta Democrat Merrimack 8 Nay
Almy, Susan Democrat Grafton 13 Nay
Ames, Richard Democrat Cheshire 9 Nay
Andrews, Christopher Democrat Merrimack 23 Nay
Andrews-Ahearn, E. Elaine Democrat Rockingham 37 Nay
Arsenault, Beth Democrat Belknap 9 Nay
Baber, William Democrat Strafford 14 Nay
Backus, Robert Democrat Hillsborough 19 Nay
Bartlett, Christy Democrat Merrimack 19 Nay
Benn, Bernard Democrat Grafton 12 Nay
Berch, Paul Democrat Cheshire 1 Nay
Bixby, Peter Democrat Strafford 17 Nay
Boisvert, Ronald Democrat Hillsborough 45 Nay
Borden, David Democrat Rockingham 24 Nay
Bouchard, Candace Democrat Merrimack 18 Nay
Briden, Steven Democrat Rockingham 18 Nay
Brown, Pamela Democrat Hillsborough 31 Nay
Burdwood, Greg Democrat Strafford 17 Nay
Burke, Rachel Democrat Strafford 2 Nay
Burns, Scott Democrat Merrimack 2 Nay
Butler, Edward Democrat Carroll 7 Nay
Butynski, William Democrat Cheshire 1 Nay
Cahill, Michael Democrat Rockingham 17 Nay
Cali-Pitts, Jacqueline Democrat Rockingham 30 Nay
Campbell, David Democrat Hillsborough 33 Nay
Carey, Lorrie Democrat Merrimack 26 Nay
Carroll, Douglas Democrat Hillsborough 34 Nay
Carson, Clyde Democrat Merrimack 7 Nay
Chase, Cynthia Democrat Cheshire 8 Nay
Cloutier, John Democrat Sullivan 10 Nay
Connor, Evelyn Democrat Hillsborough 2 Nay
Cooney, Mary Democrat Grafton 8 Nay
Cote, David Democrat Hillsborough 31 Nay
Cushing, Robert Democrat Rockingham 21 Nay
Davis, Frank Democrat Merrimack 20 Nay
DiMartino, Lisa Democrat Belknap 2 Nay
DiSilvestro, Linda Democrat Hillsborough 9 Nay
Eaton, Richard Democrat Hillsborough 38 Nay
Ebel, Karen Democrat Merrimack 5 Nay
Emerson-Brown, Rebecca Democrat Rockingham 27 Nay
Fields, Dennis Republican Belknap 4 Nay
Flockhart, Eileen Democrat Rockingham 18 Nay
Ford, Susan Democrat Grafton 3 Nay
Frambach, Mary Democrat Merrimack 21 Nay
Frazer, June Democrat Merrimack 13 Nay
French, Barbara Democrat Merrimack 6 Nay
Friedrich, Carol Democrat Grafton 16 Nay
Gage, Ruth Democrat Hillsborough 6 Nay
Gagnon, Raymond Democrat Sullivan 5 Nay
Gale, Sylvia Democrat Hillsborough 28 Nay
Gardner, Janice Democrat Strafford 15 Nay
Gile, Mary Democrat Merrimack 27 Nay
Gorman, Mary Democrat Hillsborough 31 Nay
Gottling, Suzanne Democrat Sullivan 2 Nay
Grady, Brenda Democrat Hillsborough 21 Nay
Grassie, Anne Democrat Strafford 11 Nay
Grossman, Kenneth Democrat Strafford 4 Nay
Hackel, Paul Democrat Hillsborough 29 Nay
Hammon, Marcia Democrat Coos 5 Nay
Hammond, Jill Democrat Hillsborough 24 Nay
Hansberry, Daniel Democrat Hillsborough 35 Nay
Harding, Laurie Democrat Grafton 13 Nay
Harriott-Gathright, Linda Democrat Hillsborough 36 Nay
Hatch, William Democrat Coos 6 Nay
Heath, Mary Democrat Hillsborough 14 Nay
Heden, Ruth Democrat Hillsborough 23 Nay
Heffron, Frank Democrat Rockingham 18 Nay
Henle, Paul Democrat Merrimack 12 Nay
Higgins, Patricia Democrat Grafton 12 Nay
Hirsch, Geoffrey Democrat Merrimack 6 Nay
Hooper, Dorothea Democrat Strafford 16 Nay
Horrigan, Timothy Democrat Strafford 6 Nay
Hubbard, Pamela Democrat Strafford 12 Nay
Hunt, Jane Democrat Merrimack 15 Nay
Huot, David Democrat Belknap 3 Nay
Irwin, Virginia Democrat Sullivan 6 Nay
Jack, Martin Democrat Hillsborough 36 Nay
Jeudy, Jean Democrat Hillsborough 10 Nay
Johnsen, Gladys Democrat Cheshire 7 Nay
Kaen, Naida Democrat Strafford 5 Nay
Karrick, David Democrat Merrimack 25 Nay
Kelley, John Democrat Hillsborough 32 Nay
Kelly, Sally Democrat Merrimack 20 Nay
Knowles, Mary Ann Democrat Hillsborough 37 Nay
Kopka, Angeline Democrat Hillsborough 28 Nay
Lavender, Tom Democrat Carroll 5 Nay
Leishman, Peter Democrat Hillsborough 24 Nay
Levesque, Melanie Democrat Hillsborough 26 Nay
Ley, Douglas Democrat Cheshire 9 Nay
Long, Patrick Democrat Hillsborough 42 Nay
Lovejoy, Patricia Democrat Rockingham 36 Nay
Lovett, Sid Democrat Grafton 8 Nay
MacKay, James Democrat Merrimack 14 Nay
MacKay, Mariellen Democrat Hillsborough 30 Nay
Malloy, Dennis Democrat Strafford 4 Nay
Mangipudi, Latha Democrat Hillsborough 35 Nay
Manley, Jonathan Democrat Hillsborough 3 Nay
Mann, John Democrat Cheshire 2 Nay
Mann, Maureen Democrat Rockingham 32 Nay
McCloskey, David Democrat Hillsborough 16 Nay
McNamara, Richard Democrat Hillsborough 38 Nay
Menear, H. Robert Democrat Strafford 25 Nay
Merrill, Amanda Democrat Strafford 6 Nay
Miller, David Democrat Strafford 23 Nay
Moffett, Howard Democrat Merrimack 9 Nay
Moody, Marcia Democrat Rockingham 17 Nay
Moynihan, Wayne Democrat Coos 2 Nay
Mulholland, Catherine Democrat Grafton 17 Nay
Muns, Chris Democrat Rockingham 21 Nay
Myler, Mel Democrat Merrimack 10 Nay
Nordgren, Sharon Democrat Grafton 12 Nay
Pantelakos, Laura Democrat Rockingham 25 Nay
Parkhurst, Henry Democrat Cheshire 13 Nay
Pastor, Beatriz Democrat Grafton 12 Nay
Patten, Dick Democrat Merrimack 17 Nay
Perry, Robert Democrat Strafford 3 Nay
Phillips, Larry  Democrat Cheshire 5 Nay
Piper, Wendy Democrat Grafton 10 Nay
Porter, Marjorie Democrat Hillsborough 1 Nay
Ramsey, Peter Democrat Hillsborough 8 Nay
Ratzki, Mario Democrat Merrimack 1 Nay
Raymond, Ian Democrat Belknap 4 Nay
Rhodes, Brian Democrat Hillsborough 30 Nay
Rice, Chip Democrat Merrimack 27 Nay
Richardson, Gary Democrat Merrimack 10 Nay
Robertson, Timothy Democrat Cheshire 6 Nay
Rogers, Katherine Democrat Merrimack 28 Nay
Rogers, Rose Marie Democrat Strafford 22 Nay
Rollo, Deanna Democrat Strafford 18 Nay
Rosenwald, Cindy Democrat Hillsborough 30 Nay
Sad, Tara Democrat Cheshire 1 Nay
Schamberg, Thomas Democrat Merrimack 4 Nay
Schlachman, Donna Democrat Rockingham 18 Nay
Schmidt, Andrew Democrat Sullivan 1 Nay
Schmidt, Janice Democrat Hillsborough 28 Nay
Schmidt, Peter Democrat Strafford 19 Nay
Schuett, Dianne Democrat Merrimack 20 Nay
Shattuck, Gilman Democrat Hillsborough 1 Nay
Shepardson, Marjorie Democrat Cheshire 10 Nay
Sherman, Thomas Democrat Rockingham 24 Nay
Shurtleff, Stephen Democrat Merrimack 11 Nay
Smith, Marjorie Democrat Strafford 6 Nay
Smith, Suzanne Democrat Grafton 8 Nay
Spang, Judith Democrat Strafford 6 Nay
Spratt, Stephen Democrat Hillsborough 4 Nay
Stevens, Audrey Democrat Strafford 7 Nay
Sullivan, Daniel Democrat Hillsborough 42 Nay
Sullivan, Peter Democrat Hillsborough 10 Nay
Sweeney, Cynthia Democrat Sullivan 8 Nay
Sykes, George Democrat Grafton 13 Nay
Tanner, Linda Democrat Sullivan 9 Nay
Tatro, Bruce Democrat Cheshire 15 Nay
Theberge, Robert Democrat Coos 3 Nay
Ticehurst, Susan Democrat Carroll 3 Nay
Till, Mary Democrat Rockingham 6 Nay
Townsend, Charles Democrat Grafton 11 Nay
Turcotte, Alan Democrat Merrimack 22 Nay
Vail, Suzanne Democrat Hillsborough 29 Nay
Verschueren, James Democrat Strafford 13 Nay
Wall, Janet Democrat Strafford 6 Nay
Wallner, Mary Jane Democrat Merrimack 10 Nay
Walsh, Robert Democrat Hillsborough 11 Nay
Walz, Mary Beth Democrat Merrimack 23 Nay
Ward, Gerald Democrat Rockingham 28 Nay
Ward, Kenneth Democrat Strafford 21 Nay
Watrous, Rick Democrat Merrimack 16 Nay
Wazlaw, Brian Democrat Rockingham 29 Nay
Webb, Leigh Democrat Merrimack 3 Nay
Weber, Lucy Democrat Cheshire 1 Nay
Weed, Charles Democrat Cheshire 16 Nay
White, Syndi Democrat Carroll 2 Nay
Whittemore, Lisa Democrat Rockingham 5 Nay
Williams, Kermit Democrat Hillsborough 4 Nay
Woodbury, David Democrat Hillsborough 5 Nay
Young, Harry Democrat Cheshire 14 Nay

 

Minority Leader Chandler calls for an ITL to kill the thing, and then the vote to reconsider the study committee option fails, taking the bill out of play until next year.

 

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