Tom Harvey: "Insurance is used to help control every other important dangerous item or activity we have" - Granite Grok

Tom Harvey: “Insurance is used to help control every other important dangerous item or activity we have”

I mentioned Tom Harvey here on what our first President, George Washington, had to say about Citizens, guns, and their relationship to Government (even ours).  GW made it clear that the purpose for Citizens possessing firearms was not for hunting, not for sports, but for defense.  While many would think that latter purpose is for self-defense (and it certainly is) this defense was that against a tyrannical government “which would include their own Government“.  Also notice the “should have sufficient arms and ammunition” to guarantee one’s freedom.  No, unlike what we hear from gun grabbers, GW made it clear the Citizens need to be prepared to act against such a Government that would remove their freedom (“a state of independence”).

And Tom Harvey is all of that group – the gun grabbers.  He’s just not all that honest about it.  We just met Tom when he left a comment on Grokster Rick’s post about

Obama’s absolute belief that no one should be able to own a gun (and go read it to see what it happening in countries that HAVE disarmed their citizens).  Period.  So after a couple of positive comments, Mr. Harvey decided to pee in the pond with “Meanwhile about 30,000 people die from guns each year in the US”.  I challenged him on it, that half that number is from mental illness issues and a goodly number more is from the young gang related shootings (e.g., Obama and Rahm’s Chicago) and then asked him “what’s your solution be?”.  His retort was “gun insurance” and conflated it with “mandatory car insurance” (yes, I pointed out here in NH, car insurance is OPTIONAL)- something that I have seen from Leftist elected legislators before with prices generally outstripping the cost of most of the commonly owned middle class firearms – a twiced priced around $1 – $2,000 per firearm per year.  Nothing but a backdoor defenestration of my Second Amendment Right and he kinda confirmed it with “…If the insurers wanted to charge you $1-2000 per gun then they would have decided you are a real menace.”

So, let’s summarize that, shall we?

I would have to contract with a private company to fork over for an overpriced insurance product (does this sound familiar – over priced insurance?) whose sole purpose was to relieve my of wealth simply to exercise a Constitutional Right.  Let me restate: To use your Right, we’ll bleed you dry.

How many middle class could afford that.  But even worse, he is willing to have another private entity serve as judge, juror, and tax collector to carry out his dirty work.  No due process, no trial to be heard by a jury of my peers – no, just some faceless bureaucrat deciding I’m not paying them enough.  And who is naive enough to believe that this new “marketplace” would be free from politicization  from Government? Or is that its purpose – to provide for cover for activists like him willing to use the force of Government to force his morality on me?

And then one of more prolific (and liked) commenters, Radical Moderate, outed him as being a Huff Poster: I Have a Right to Hate Guns.  So I went and read it, and this post was intended to be where I fisked it

He also has his own blog: Gun Insurance Blog where he tries to sound “pragmatic”.

Sidenote: Here at the ‘Grok, we understand the redefinition of words that is going on; having worn out their welcome with Progressives, folks that hate the Constitution (the governance and Rights for which it lauds) and wish to move this country bit by bit to the Socialist Dystopia of the Administrative state, rebranded themselves as Liberals.  Now, since they have so toxified that term, they’ve switched back to “Progressive” and now having worn that out so quickly, are turning to “pragmatic” to save them again.  Tom is one of them.

Well, it is getting late and this is, once again, getting long, so consider this the Prelude.  Main course coming up later.

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