Progressives hate it when Conservatives take over their church - Granite Grok

Progressives hate it when Conservatives take over their church

And make no mistake, to Progressives, politics IS a religion!  This is the post that I read from while we were yakking with Bill O’Brien during GrokTALK! (update: here too!) this past Saturday that outlines some of the VAST differences in outlook between Conservatives that are confident in themselves and in their fellow citizens and in Progressives that believe totally in Government and that it must be placed first – to the point that NOTHING should ever be detracted from it.  Tower of Babel, anyone?  A self-constructed idol, anyone?  Republicans are UNBELIEVERS and must be held to account for any attempt in diminishing the reach, the cost, and the power of their all-giving (hmm, they keep forgetting about “all-taking”) Government.  In setting the stage (emphasis mine):

CHAPEL HILL – Abortion safety laws make it “more dangerous for the black woman’s body.” Republican lawmakers “want kids to die.” Conservatives “are trying to take the U.S. hostage” and hope to “destroy our public school system.

That’s just a sample of some of the vitriol spewed Thursday night at the University of North Carolina – Chapel Hill, which played host to a meeting of Scholars’ for North Carolina’s Future, a group of secular-progressive college professors who have helped lead, along with the NAACP and AFL-CIO, weekly “Moral Monday” protests at the state capitol over the last several months. The Moral Monday movement is a massive and disruptive weekly civil disobedience demonstration, and it has become somewhat of a spectacle in North Carolina, with liberal activists using it as a platform to rally against the Republican-held majority in the General Assembly and its approval of issues such as voter-ID laws and fiscal responsibility on public education.

Remember parents, you are paying great sums of money to these professors to teach your children that half the country are evil-doers simply because they believe in a more limited government, that people (, my GOSH) should have the ability to choose for themselves, and keep the cost of government within some bounds of frugality.

…As the audience – a mostly white, elderly group – waited for the meeting to begin, they also talked with impassioned contempt about conservatives. About a dozen students attended the event, which was heavily publicized in the Gender Studies and Journalism departments.

Here are a couple of quotes I picked out during the podcast that well illustrate the differences:

…“Imagine a city,” he said, “where there are half a million people. How many must die of strokes, heart attacks, diabetes, HIV, AIDS before the (assembly) let us have our federal money?”

A new doxology: “Praise God Federal Government from whom all Blessings flow!”  Unfortunately, instead of passing the plate, they believe they are entitled to the contents of what everyone else has put into the plate.  How EVIL can you be, you conservatives, to be to not allow us access to it – even if our Heavenly Government’s money from Heaven may be getting props from the Deep Dark Place’s Prince as the rain of shekels is going to be reduced to a couple of drips.

…By this point in the program, it had become an all-out assault on so-called “right-wing nut jobs.” MacLean said the “right-wing” was more interested in “private property rights” than the “collective good of the state.”

Here is one actual point honestly laid out – we DO believe that “we built that” and that “we earned that”.  We understand that some of that private property (liquid wealth in terms of taxes) is necessary to fund essential activities of a limited Government.  However, opposite to Progressives, we know that we have private responsibilities to our families, friends, and communities.  Study after study (after the ground breaking one by self-labeled “liberal” Professor Arthur Brooks, formerly of Syracuse U called “Who really cares?” showed that Conservatives, especially religious ones, give more in time and money than secular Progressives).  The problem with Progressives is that:

  • in the Conservative model, we get to determine who  and what organizations become the object of our largesse
  • in the Conservative model, we get to determine how much to give – and when we stop

On the other hand:

  • in the Progressive model, everyone must participate in everything – there is no choice.
  • in the Progressive model, even if the need as been met (or worse, can’t be met), the “giving” must continue (as government can never be diminished even if not needed)
  • in the Progressive model, every victim must have their needs met (even if our “poverty” is most countries’ middle class).
  • in the Progressive model, there is no such thing as accountability (er, is this really working?)
  • Oh, did I mention that needs are never going down even as we spend more money?

Ah yes, the thought that perhaps the current poor state of their education system just MIGHT the result of their stewardship just can’t be brought into the conversation – anathema! This same Professor decided to bite the hand that feeds it – for without a significant economic system to drive the spinoff wealth needed to host an educational system such as Duke University, she’d not have a platform to rail against the system that supports her:

She went on to argue the destruction of North Carolina occurred when “Cato, ALEC, the Koch Brothers, Milton Friedman, Art Pope and his right-wing Civitas group, along with racial conservatives in the south and economic libertarians in the north, came to together to destroy our public school system.” She then railed against the “free market system” they support, prompting laughter from the crowd.

And of course, the 1890’s Industrial education model spun off from the Prussian system MUST not evah be twiddled with (after all, that is the Progressive monastery where new acolytes are indoctrinated).  For Progressives that purport to be such “FORWARD! thinkers”, such a retrograde status quo outlook, n’est pas?

“The Republicans in Washington are trying to take the U.S. hostage,” she said. “They don’t share our moral system, they are trying to impede government because without government we cannot move forward.”

And if anything were to summarize the difference between Conservatives and Progressives, that line sums it up.  We certainly don’t share their secular moral code which seems to be driven by the politics of the moment and only exists to support a political agenda. Mainly, Progressives legislated for that external moral governship – laws and regulations which turn into the external bars of a cage – Government is the ultimate authority. Not only is it a man-made code but there is no stability to it – what was good then is now verbotten – but can be brought back to “good graces” in a heartbeat if it can support an agenda or a victim identity group.  One is never sure of what is right or wrong – and that’s a feature and not a bug.  That alone keeps people guessing and hesitant to speak up or act out – for the worse condemnation, RAACIST!, can be thrown at any time and you have not clue.  Not only that, but their moral code is not satisfied with mere abject apologies but eternal damnation and destruction (if only some of our preachers had the same level of condemnation, hellfire, brimstone, and eternal casting down).

As opposed an absolute moral code that is not there to condemn but to deliniate long held sense of what is right and what is wrong.  It provides a platform by which one can reliably judge, over time, someone’s behavior (or lack thereof) – it supports no agenda but that of a true model of living one’s life (versus a political agenda).  But it is that sense of absolute that acts as a lever for accountability that others can judge without capriciousness. It engenders a sense of internal guidance and governorship – where the individual conscience should also be in gear. Also, for the religious, there is that sense that someONE greater than themselves will sit in judgement – a Higher Power, God Himself is the ultimate authority.

We totally reject the notion that Government is the only and necessary vehicle to move forward – so why would we not seek to limit it?  It is not “the name for the things we do together” for there is much that we recognize that we CAN do, voluntarily with others, outside of Government (or in which Government is a stumbling block) successfully and then move on to other things.  We reject that, unlike Progressives, there is a Holy Government to which we must all bow and from which we receive our leadership in all things.  In fact, individuals can, on their own, “move forward” with no help whatsoever – we see that as goodness and Progressives see that as selfish.  Their stance is, as Obama has said,  thatour “salvation is collective” and that our “individual” salvation must necessarily be subsumed to that “collective good”.

In fact, in all things, the individual must give way to the group, the community, the Collective.  This is the Socialist moral code – one that we, Liberty and Freedom lovers, totally reject for we see strewn all over history that it truly does not bring a Workers Paradise or a Progressive Heaven on Earth but merely misery and despair.  They have not learned that there is no “right set of people to implement” it – but they refuse to allow us to “worship” on our own, in our private space, without their God, Government.

 

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