So what WOULD the difference between a Citizen and non-Citizen be? - Granite Grok

So what WOULD the difference between a Citizen and non-Citizen be?

First we have California wanting to let non-Citizens to be on juries – our “peers” that COULD eternally deprive us of my Liberty when they may still adhere to the historical and legal precepts held over from their country of origin?  How would THAT serve us well as a society?  I talked about Progressives forcibly trying to blur the lines between Citizens and non-citizens, that their sense of “Community” overrides the actual legalities of the obligations of Citizenship.

Now, we see the next shoe drop – if non-citizens are allowed to vote, what is left of the notion of what a citizen is?  From the Left  Coast to the virtual Left Coast of New York City:

New York City is poised to become the first major city to grant non-citizens the right to vote.

The New York City Council’s committees on immigration and government relations will today hold joint hearings on a proposal that would allow non-citizens to vote in city elections, and backers of the effort say they have a veto-proof majority, according to the New York Daily News.

Citizenship is currently a requirement for voters throughout New York State, but this legislation, “Voting By Non-Citizen Residents,” would change that, allowing immigrants who are “lawfully present in the United States” and have lived in the city for longer than six months to vote.

“This is extremely important, because it’s based on the founding principle of this country and that was, ‘No Taxation Without Representation.’ All of the people who would be included in this and would be allowed to vote are paying taxes, they’ve contributed to society,” Councilman Daniel Dromm, a co-sponsor of the proposal, told Talking Points Memo.

Dromm is wrongly applying that principle – the Colonies were considered to be part of the Crown’s properties and considered to be King George’s subjects.  There was a legal obligation at that time that had to be obeyed (er, until the Revolutionary War settled the status of “subjects”).   Here, we have people that may still be subject to another country – their allegiance is not to this country!  What Dromm is effectively granting is de facto dual citizenship – vote in your country’s elections and then come vote in ours.  What else is Citizenship good for in a Constitutional Republic except to decide how your land is to be governed by voting?

New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg opposes the measure. He said through a spokeswoman that “voting is the most important right we are granted as citizens and you should have to go through the process of becoming a citizen and declaring allegiance to this country before being given that right.” The legislation currently has enough support in the city council, however, to override the mayor’s veto.

Funny – Bloomie believes we should have choice in terms of our votes, but not in what we eat, what we drink, how we can defend ourselves against others and against tyranny, that we can’t feed the poor, et al.  But he is right here.

 

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