Meet The New Press – Podcast for 11/14/09

Gee, and you don’t even know me! Sadly, Political Correctness (and those that attempt to define what is correct or not) have forgotten what the First Amendment means.
For folks like you, and your brethren in CA who have literally have had people fired and businesses shut down merely for supporting CA’s Proposition 8, it seems that NO apology will ever be sufficient.

No apology will ever be sufficient, that’s correct. You can’t apologize for remarks and antics like that, particularly given the statement “Yeah you Faggot. [Pause.] That’s right I said it and I meant it. You are reprobate. How the people, the Democrats, I think of some of the gray haired ladies and older people from the old party would stand behind you is beyond me. You are a disgrace to yourself to humanity to mankind and to your party.” That was no errant slip of the tongue. That was hate, pure and simple. Frankly, this is exactly how I like my bigots. I’ve always preferred it when they own their own prejudice and wallow in it, rather than cloak it behind “Christian love”.
The First Amendment, by the way, only prohibits THE GOVERNMENT from silencing free speech. It does not mean that one can spew whatever kind of idiocy they like without any sort of criticism or backlash. Denying civil and human rights to a minority, even an unpopular minority, is reprehensible. Those who support those actions, even if the mob is in the majority, deserve every bit of scorn heaped upon them.
Hopefully the Republican party has learned its lesson, and will start distancing themselves from troglodytes such as yourself. Like my grandma always said, “Lie down with dogs, and you get up with fleas.” If I were a Republican these days, I’d be pretty tired of scratching.

Hi there, bigot. That’s right. I said it and I meant it.
Do you want to know why people, including gray-haired old ladies, might support an openly gay politician? It’s because they’re decent human beings, and they realize that homophobes like you would like nothing more than to see LGTB Americans marginalized, stripped of their rights, and perhaps even dead. You made as much clear in your comments, which even your half-hearted apology refers to as a product of your passion.
Next stop — FCC website to report this hate speech.

Were you a bully in high school too? Were you picked on because you look like you are inbred? Or maybe you really are inbred? Really, I thought Neanderthals died out years ago.
Funny, but most bullies are covering up other insecurities. Equally funny, most vehement homophobes are covering up their own homosexuality. Like most bigots you are a coward too. Since you had to say your little tirade when you thought the feeds were off. Most assuredly you don’t have what it takes to walk up to someone on the street and say this.
Yeah, were faggots. Were used to people like you. You are a perfect example of what we go through everyday from other “humans” such as yourself. It says a lot about you and your kind that little gray haired old ladies are standing with us and against bigots and bullies like you.
Oh, and your behavior on the air is governed by the FCC. I’m sure they will be contacting you soon. Might want to update you resume…..

Please tell me that Lambert is getting fired for this.

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Do you understand Jesus in your heart?

He deleted my message because I called him beady-eyed and fat-faced. It must have hit too close to home.

You people are truly ridiculous, you think that by bombarding someone who made a mistake and said something dumb with comments that are even worse than what was said in the first place is going to solve anything. I would like you all to think twice before you make some comment crucifying him, about your life and how many times you have made a racial comment or a comment about a group of people. Then think about how many times you have made a mistake. This is the same situation except someone was listening who will do anything to make him look bad. The FCC can not do a thing you morons HE WAS NOT ON AIR. He was speaking in a a group while on film. The FCC can not do anything about a video made (for example watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8koUKOknMhM&feature=related ) So why don’t you go running to the FCC about that too…OH wait he is a Democrat so even if there was anything they could do you wouldn’t because he is a democrat. So go ahead get his name out there you will just get him more hits for this blog. I also want to repeat that what he said is no where near as bad as the things you have said. He used an offensive word for gay. You people have brutally attacked a man for something that only a handful of people heard.

Are you kidding me???? You are clearly a bigot and scumbag. How dare you insult an entire 10% of america. You should lose your job and NOT get unemployment.

You people say he is the hatefilled one. He made one rude comment about a gay person and you think that he hates all gays. You people have your heads further up your asses than o thought. You people are ridiculious and just plain hate filled. Some of your comment are far worse than someone calling someone else a mean name. If this was a democrat you people would have a much different opinion and would be defending them.

Okay, so a couple of you think we’ve said some things that are more hateful than what was originally said.
Did we hurt your widdle feewings? I love how people whip out first Ammendment, when they’ve been busted. Aren’t these people just exercising their First Ammendment rights, too? Oh wait…I forgot. Y’all don’t think we deserve the same rights as you.
The point is that Lambert said a hateful thing and he meant for it to be hateful.
“One rude comment” ….pffft!!! If you classify what that donkey said as “rude,” I dread what your definition of “hatefilled” is!

This man is NOT atypical of other bombastic, “Jesus loving”, right-wingnuts, who feel they can spew forth their hatred, ugliness, and ‘un-pc’ comments, to their hearts delight, without fear of retribution. Well, yes, free speech is protected by the 1st Amendment (as is hate speech, by the way), but there ARE rules and regulations, by which ‘journalists’ and ‘radio commentators’ must abide…and Mr. Lambert will obviously be at least ‘slapped on the wrist’, even with his apology. Ultimately, it’s the advertisers (if anyone actually is supporting this clown), who must be brought to task. ANyone supporting this guy’s message CAN and SHOULD be hurt…financially, if necessary, NOT UNLIKE the businesses which supported PROP 8 in CA, as he so wise-assedly points out in a response above. HOW DARE this dim-witted, slur-ridden, disgusting excuse of humanity think he can get away with whatever he chooses, simply because ‘free speech’ is tolerated, and ‘p.c.’ and ‘liberal’ in his parlance are four letter words!
I’ve wasted way too much time even thinking about this guy, let alone submitting a response to his ridiculous on-air diatribe. What kind of response do you suppose Mr. Buckley will be submitting? That’s one to watch!

I’m happy to forgive Mr. Lambert, Don… after he demonstrates true remorse and makes tangible amends to the many people, straight and gay, whom he offended. I won’t hold my breath.
I don’t care what kinds of blather he normally says. This was beyond the pale, and you and every single one of his other listeners knows it. The really pathetic thing is that his supporters are claiming anti-Republican bias… as if we’d stand for this kind of hatred from a Democrat… please.
Those who think these comments are somehow worse than Mr. Lambert’s vomitous statements have clearly never had anything like that directed at them. Spend a few years in someone else’s shoes… trying to get through the day without being called a faggot or being assaulted, marginalized, or discriminated against… and THEN we’ll talk. Until then, though, your ignorance is showing.

You know exactly what that means… acknowledgement that the statement was utterly unacceptable in civilized society, a heartfelt apology for his actions (not an “i’m sorry if anyone was offended” non-apology), and a demonstrated tangible effort to educate himself on GLBT issues. Look at Ted Olson for example… when he first started this whole marriage equality suit with David Boies, the entire GLBT community freaked out because of his previous right-wing history. His actions and statements during these legal proceedings have largely turned the community’s opinion in his favor.
Trust me, I know we have some characters in our community… but we recognize bigotry when we see it, and we know a sincere apology when we hear one.

There’s only one thing I detest more than a shallow-minded, fat, neo-Nazi, super-conservative bigot bent on disrespecting me and my entire community, and that’s a shallow-minded, fat, neo-Nazi super conservative bigot bent on disrespecting me and my entire community who is TOO CRAVEN TO STAND BEHIND HIS OWN STATEMENTS.
If you’re going to call somebody a faggot, sir, at least have the backbone to stand behind your statement rather than offering a sniveling apology that insults the intelligence of everyone who reads it.
I’m going to go have wild, passionate, dirty sex with my girlfriend in your honor.

Know this: my daughter will be entering the Marine Corps in July to fight for your right to free speech. I served in the Army proudly in the early 80s. I have had custody of my children for six years now since their conservative Christian mother decided she would rather go to Iraq with the North Carolina National Guard than help raise the children she mothered. So, my children are stable, one is going into the military. I work as a fire fighter and help save the lives of people in the community in which I live. Not bad for a gay man eh? Remember that if you suddenly need help from a fireman, cop, from an EMS worker or a military person. Sexual orientation needs to be better understood and accepted, not just tolerated. One day one of us, our one of our children, may end up saving one like you.

I can’t believe was a loser you are. If you have children, I feel very VERY sorry for them.

So sad that someone like you has access to a radio station that reaches so many and all you have to say is nasty, hateful things. I do not accept your apology but I would accept your resignation. People who say things like that at work obviously do not care about their jobs, families or the public. I hope you get fired. I hope you never have the opportunity to do what you did again. And, finally, I hope you evolve into a better person. What you said is pathetic.

Surely when Doug meets his god on judgment day and god asks Doug why he treated gay people with such hatred and disrespect, Doug will tell God that he did it to honor HIM.
Morality indeed, Doug.
Morality indeed.

I agree with what Casey just posted.
And Skip, yes, that’s exactly what I mean. There is no reasonable argument against full equality for GLBT Americans. People don’t like to think that their prejudices constitute bigotry against their fellow citizens, but in this case, that’s exactly what it is.

http://www.citizen.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091116/GJNEWS02/711169872/-1/CITNEWS
Gee…. in my earlier comments, it seems i wasn’t far off referencing racism in regard to homophobia. reading the final paragraph of the above link, it seems that in the past, Mr Lambert has wished that the comedienne Wanda Sykes would ‘ …choke on a chicken bone or a watermelon rind. What ever gets the job done.”
Homophobes, like racists, are NEVER pointing their disgusting rhetoric at just the person in front of them. bringing up chicken bones and watermelon to disparage an African American woman, is right out of the KKK play book. perhaps a step too far, but i’d bet next week’s grocery bill that Lambert is a Birther too, but again, that would be a fight for another day. i’m batting 2 for 2 at this point, so i’ll leave it at that.
i’d say the reason we haven’t heard from Mr Lambert personally, is all about the lawyers, which says to me, EVERYONE in their right mind understands exactly what he has said and done, and are now hoping this will just go away.

Thank you, Casey, for the opportunity to write to you. Thank you for your thoughts and opinions. I am retired from my career job. I now have the luxury of working for the pleasure of it. My career job was a completely unionized job. I paid my dues and volunteered for the different charities, like most of my co-workers. But in 1996, the AFL-CIO made a big push for all of its associate unions to take various political positions. Some of these positions I disagreed with, based upon the principles of my faith. As hard as I tried to get my local union to take a neutral position in these areas, they would not. With great remorse, I and 2 others left the union. That began the unrelenting attacks on me and my beliefs. I never attacked anyone, made fun of anyone, and treated all of my fellow workers with the respect and dignity that every human being deserves. Yet having done that throughout my entire career, there was no respect or understanding for my position. My faith was made fun of- for a short time. It was then decided that the rest of the workers would not talk to me any longer. That lasted for about 3 years, with a few beginning to talk to me after that. It took 5 years to finally win them over to a simple position of respect for me and my position, again based upon my faith. How I finally won them over was to simply say “hi” to each and everyone of them every day. I opened the doors for them. I showed them the respect and forgiveness that they needed, and I asked for nothing in return. You see, it does not matter what others do. It only matters how we respond. There is too much hate in this world- on both sides. That change must begin with us.

Peace to you, Casey. Though we would not agree on so many points, within this maelstrom we have come to an understanding. I honor your gift to others- the gift of yourself. I hope one day you might consider seeking for the answers to life’s many questions. If you start that journey, may I humbly suggest you pick up a bible and read a bit. It may be that some of what you seek lays within. Or may be not. It will be for you to judge. I enjoyed talking with you, and in the sharing. I hope we both come away from this the better for it. Take care, and the very best to you.

Mr Lambert. Even though I am not one to cry foul especially upon those of talk radio whom are free to speak their minds and opinion no matter how absurd or obtuse, I do however feel it necessary to enlighten you on your comment toward Mr. Buckley.
“Yeah you Faggot. [Pause.] That’s right I said it and I meant it. You are reprobate. How the people, the Democrats, I think of some of the gray haired ladies and older people from the old party would stand behind you is beyond me. You are a disgrace to yourself to humanity to mankind and to your party.”
This is what you said is it not? Look carefully over your remark. I would love to know how your “passion” got the best of you and not rather blatant bitter prejudice. I myself am an openly gay man, a veteran, and a man of faith as well.
Your comment not only was sinister in nature, but also gave the public a slight glimpse into the depths of malice and contempt one person has toward their fellow man. This is not about politics, or issues, or opinion. It is about slander against an entire group of people.
Just because you may think all gay people are those that wear tight jeans, eyeliner, and have a lisp, does not give you the clairvoyance to be biased especially when those prejudices and stigmas are fueled so easily by such comments.
To be frank Mr. Lambert, gay people are not weak. We are not sex crazed lunatics, or borderline pedophiles which I do not doubt some of your colleagues would hint at. We are people. We are Americans. And we are just as dynamic and diverse as our fellow strait neighbors.
we have jobs, pay our taxes, and god willing, have a loving partner whom we cherish, and a family we love and hold dear. If anyone is reprobate, if anyone is a disgrace to THEIR party it is you sir!
You have not only fueled the prejudice and the stigma to your listeners, but have once again tainted any sense of stability or rationale in the Republican Party!
With all due respect, which there is little of, if you were to say that sickening, revolting comment to my face, and danced around like a fairy mocking those whom are different, those who love and feel any more or less than you, I would have punched you smack in the face!
Your show goes into nothing of the plight of gay people. The skyrocketing suicide rate of young gay teens rejected by their family, their friends, their church. You turn a blind eye to the growing number of homeless teens there now are wandering our streets getting mixed up in drugs, or prostitution to just afford a meager meal.
You refuse to acknowledge the death of Seaman August Provost, an openly gay African American sailor who was shot to death in a guard shack in camp pendalton.
Instead of being a voice for equality and humanity. One for all people and being a leader and a voice for all peoples, you instead resort to blind ignorance, and prejudice stemmed from your own ignorance, and lack of understanding or compassion toward others.
Simply put, you should not have to give an apology, because such comments and childish remarks tipped in venom should never have been spewed from your lips period. And now because of prodding by your higher ups you give a watered down comment out of force rather than sincerity, not even condemning such a remark you expect the slate to be wiped clean?
Guess again. Before you open your mouth and your warped mind attempts to connect the dots to make another cynical and cutting remark. Remember that someone may very well give you a call on your birthday and call you a “faggot”. Good Day Mr. Lambert…

To all who are posting here- Come and let us reason together. One of the many bumper stickers I see is “Hatred is not a family value”. I wonder; is that only for my family or does it include yours? Is it not a fair thing to ask, that each of us practice what we preach? You don’t want to be painted with a broad brush- how about you doing the same? Stop the attacks on the republican party and Christians. By attacking them you are guilty of the exact same thing you accuse Doug of. And the funny thing is, that there are those within these 2 groups that support you. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. That seems a bit ungrateful to me. Are you all so far above reproach that you can be so free with your comments? I could only wish that I was that perfect. Until that day, I will offer what I look for- forgiveness. I am not a perfect person- neither are any of you. Lastly; Many of you believe in restorative justice for murderers and rapists. How about some for Doug?

Don, I like the direction you’re going… to a point, at least. I appreciate the value you place on civil discourse and mutual respect. But perhaps you can try to understand the other position for a second. Those Christians who oppose GLBT equality often complain about a double standard when it comes to “hatred”. What they don’t understand is that the animosity they are experiencing is not hate, but anger. The anger is the direct result of the tendence of some religious people (Christian or otherwise) to try to force others to conform to the rules of their religion through the legislative and social denial of secular civil liberties toward GLBT people. Again, I’m talking about SECULAR civil liberties. No gay person will tell a conservative religious person that they should be forced to attend gay pride parades and volunteer for PFLAG. But as long as we live in a country that (thank God) has a separation between church and state, everyone (including religious people) has a responsibility to respect the civil liberties and human rights of their fellow citizens. This responsibility has, in recent years especially, been pointedly disregarded by religious conservatives… ignoring the fact that plenty of their fellow believers in other denominations would disagree strongly with how they’re treating their GLBT brothers and sisters. So when religious conservatives find themselves on the receiving end of animosity from GLBT people, it’s not because gay folks hate them for being religious, or even for thinking gay people are gross. They get angry because that the political process, motivated by religion-based bigotry (yes, it’s bigotry), has very often caused a restriction of their secular civil liberties. The oppressed are not obligated to be tolerant toward their own oppressors, even if that oppression is based on a Biblically justifiable but no longer socially acceptable bias. Religious conservatives think we’re all going to burn in hell, and maybe they’re right… who knows… but as long as we’re here on this Earth, and as long as we live in America, we deserve the same secular civil and human rights as the most fervent Baptist.

Oh, and to the poster above who thinks the comments were made “on film”….uh, that’s funny. So I’m guessing you made your comments above by writing them down on paper and sending them in via US Mail….or maybe carrier pigeon?

Milkman- I would say that you pass an awful lot of judgments in your comments. If you would re read your comments, you will see that you are trying to paint me into a corner. By doing so, you are violating my rights of free speech, association, religion, education of my children, etc…… You are also saying that I must march to your tune, your way or I am a hater. With respect- You are completely wrong! Like you, I do not have to support anyone that I fundamentally disagree with. That does not make either one of us haters. That is freedom of association. You vote your sexuality, I vote my faith. Whats the difference? For all of the hating that you say has been directed against gays, may I respectfully direct you to those who have been harassed simply for supporting the marriage amendment in California. Would you like for me to research that side of things and post the numerous links to reported incidents here? I can if you’d like. Personally, I don’t see the need, but I will if you insist. We all need to stop being disingenuous here! A lot of people have been wronged on both sides. Just look at some of the remarks above. You have the ability to help stop the hate. But do you have the courage to?

Don – Exactly how am I preventing you from speaking your mind, associating with anyone you wish, educating your children, or exercising your religion? Yes, I think your views on marriage and GLBT issues in general are prejudiced… but I don’t think you should go to jail for it or be silenced. You don’t need to try to impress me with incident reports of anti-religious harassment, because in that game the gay guy will always ALWAYS win. (Please… “the hating that you say has been directed against gays”… are you serious?) You seem to be missing the point. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from criticism. Freedom of religion does not mean freedom to enact legislation to force others to conform to your particular sect’s beliefs. Again, we’re dealing with CIVIL rights here. I fully support your right to think we’re all going to hell, to call us faggots, to refuse to recognize our relationships as equal to your own. Bigotry is a personal choice (unlike being gay). But please don’t pretend that you’re some sort of victim. Your concept of “stopping the hate” seems to be for us to roll over and allow religious zealots to set the rules without regard to the civil rights of nonbelievers. You want courage? Try living your life openly and honestly surrounded by people who would like nothing more than to see you silenced or dead. I’m starting to suspect that your pretty rhetoric about love and respect has little to do with either, and more to do with just “agreeing to disagree”. No. There is no room to “agree to disagree” when it comes to my equal humanity and equal civil rights. You either think I’m equal to you, or you don’t. You clearly don’t. And that makes you…… no, I won’t say it. You know deep down what it means. Do you have the courage to face that?

Aaaaand here we go. The sad and pathetic arguments of bigots who desperately want to find a reasonable excuse for their bigotry. Let me tell you something, Don. Gay people are not animals. Gay couples are not the same thing as those who are polygamous. Laws are not, in and of themselves, moral. Was the Dred Scott decision moral? What about the laws in Colorado that were so virulently homophobic that the Supreme Court struck them down? Lawrence v Texas? What if the majority wanted to ban Christianity? Would that be moral? No, no, no, and no. Civil and human rights should never be up to a vote of the mob. I deserve them because I’m human and an American, and I don’t give a good flying fuck whether you think I’m going to hell or not. I can’t imagine what they were teaching your 5 year old daughter… and I don’t care. It’s your responsibility as a parent to make sure she is exposed to the teachings you support, and if you don’t like how the public school does it you’re welcome to home school or send her to a religious institution. I don’t indoctrinate children, and neither does anyone else. And as far as a “high horse” is concerned, wasn’t it you who was blathering on about “stopping the hate”? So much for your self-righteous bullshit… everybody should love everybody as long as they believe what I think they should. We don’t have to like each other, but we do have to respect each other’s equal human and civil rights. I will do that for you, even if you don’t do it for me… because I know that the tide of history is moving in my direction. Enjoy your irrelevance. Bye now…