GraniteGrok: Welfare Poem

Well, I have no idea if the figures in the poem below are correct, etc., but you get the drift, huh? Read the poem (after my discourse) and let me know if it makes you angry, okay?

Somewhat related to this, I've been following some of the coverage on the Pelosi/Shea-Pompous upcoming trip to New Orleans along with the other 13-14 democratic party animals. The story is interesting. Why, you ask? The comments are overwhelmingly against them going to New Orleans for what most people believe is merely another photo op and Bush bashing expedition at taxpayers' expense.

What does Congress do about approval ratings in the single digits? Go on a trip, of course. They are all on vacation anyway. Many people are mad at Pompous and wondering why she doesn't work here in NH to solve fixing the many roads and bridges that are red-lined, help those who have suffered flooding problems here, feed the one in ten children who go to bed hungry...you know work on NH's many unsolved problems. We're 6th in income but 49th in services to citizens right here in NH. Where's the NH way?

Not a big photo op here, I guess, as it probably wouldn't get national exposure. Playing on people's sympathies works very well many times. What some people don't seem to understand is that you can fell sorry for somebody, but that doesn't necessarily mean you have to "do" something for them, especially if they're not willing to do something for themselves.

We all like to give, partly because it makes us feel good about ourselves. Obviously, when there's a real crisis as there was with Katrina, we should all try to do our part to help. But, sometimes people don't appreciate what they get for nothing so it can be more harmful to them and what they may need is to become responsible and accountable and held to a higher standard sometimes too. I'm not saying we still shouldn't be trying to help people in New Orleans, but sometimes "help" can actually hurt.

I was in Vail about a year ago. I rode the shuttle van from Denver and met a New Orleans' football player who was going to see an ortopaedist in Vail. We started talking about Hurricane Katrina.

He told me that there was a huge population of "welfare mentality" people in New Orleans. Many of them, according to him, had never worked although they were able, and they had always been on welfare way before Katrina.

He was a very nice Christian man and he and his family had done alot of work to help people through their Church, especially after the Hurricane.

However, he honestly told me that the Hurricane had left many with a worse "victim's mentality" and they wanted more and more and more hand-outs. What they didn't want was to go get a job and become self-sufficient.

Now, I have no reason to doubt this guy's take on things. He seemed very sincere and not hostile whatsoever. But, he did say that his Church had tried to help many people find jobs, and because they had such a "welfare mentality" mindset, they were too comfortable living on welfare and doing as they pleased and the last thing they wanted was to work for money.

Now, couldn't we solve the problem here easily. Send the illegals home and round up the able-bodied welfare recipients from New Orleans and put them in the fields to earn a day's pay for a change. Anyone can cut grass and do other jobs without an education to earn a living.

Don't get your knickers in an uproar! I'm not saying everyone in New Orleans is on welfare or that there aren't plenty of people who have helped themselves and worked hard. I'm also not saying that we shouldn't have helped New Orleans either.

I'm merely passing along what I, too, know through many years in ministry. Some people absolutely refuse to help themselves and just want to whine and swirl around in their own little cesspool. We used to cut these people off after giving them ample opportunity to work on their issues and help themselves. Eventually, you stop enabling them and hold them accountable and some would rather hold onto their "victim's mentality" for life. You can't help those, who won't help themselves. It was always hard for us to let anyone go, but we had hundreds of people who worked hard to improve their lives and that's where we directed our limited resources and energy.

The poem does speak to this topic, so here it is for you to think about perhaps?

"Welfare Poem

I cross ocean,
poor and broke,
Take bus,
see employment folk.

Nice man treat me
good in there,
Say I need to
see welfare.

Welfare say,
"You come no more,
We send cash
right to your door."

Welfare checks,
they make you wealthy,
Medicaid it keep
you healthy!

By and by,
I got plenty money,
Thanks to you,
American dummy.

Write to friends
in motherland,
Tell them 'come
fast as you can.'

They come in turbans
and Ford trucks,
  I buy big house
with welfare bucks
They come here,
we live together,
More welfare checks,
it gets better!

Fourteen families,
they moving in,
But neighbor's patience
wearing thin.

Finally, white guy
moves away,
Now I buy his house,
and then I say,
"Find more aliens
for house to rent."

And in the yard,
I put a tent.

Send for family
they just trash,
But they, too,
draw the welfare cash!

Everything is
very good,
And soon we
own the neighbor hood.

We have hobby
it's called breeding,
Welfare pay
for baby feeding.

Kids need dentist?
Wife need pills?
We get free!
We got no bills!

American crazy!
He pay all year,
To keep welfare
running here.

We think America darn good place!
Too darn good for the white man race.

If they no like us, they can scram,
Got lots of room in Pakistan.

It is interesting that the federal government provides a  single refugee with a monthly allowance of $1, 890.00 and each can also get
an additional $580.00 in social assistance for a total of $2,470.00.

*This compares very well to a single pensioner who after  contributing to the growth and development of America for 40 to 50 years can  only receive a monthly maximum of $1, 012.00 in old age pension and  Guaranteed Income Supplement.
.
Maybe our pensioners should apply as refugees!
.
Lets send this to all Americans, so we can all be ticked off
and maybe we can get the refugees cut back to $1,01 2.00 and the pensioners up to $2,470 00 and enjoy some of the money we were forced to submit to the Government over the last 40 or 50 years."
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H/T: Laurie

Comments

false information

Posted by: David | August 14, 2007 7:57 PM

Thanks, David. I hate it when that happens and should have checked. But, my pro-football player is not a false story and it still makes my point that some people don't want to help themselves.

Posted by: Judy Paris | August 15, 2007 6:06 AM

I seriously doubt your story is true Paris. I doubt that a Saints ball player, in the middle of training camp, is going to visit an Orthopedist in Vail when they have them on staff. But even if they did visit a doctor in Vail -- which some of the more wealthy athletes do in the off-season -- I doubt that they would be taking the trip in a shuttle bus telling some busybody exactly what she needs to hear to reinforce her simple minded view of welfare in this country -- round them up and put them in fields? really?!?!? A car service with a driver is only a few hundred bucks which is pocket change for a professional athlete who frequents Vail specialists. Your story seems all to perfect for your purpose and highly unlikely. Perhaps you could give us the name of this good Christian ballplayer.

Posted by: mg | August 15, 2007 1:19 PM

At least Judy opened this post with "I have no idea if [my source] is correct," an expression which belongs at the beginning of everything I've seen her write, whether here or in the Concord Monitor. Leave politics out of this for one moment, Judy, and ask youself this: How do you think people who lost the homes they had always lived in thanks to Katrina would feel to hear someone (while noting a personal trip to Vail, of all places) not merely trivializing their grief, but on the basis of unconfirmed and patently ridiculous information, calling them lazy and welfare leeches? Is that what you think of as "the New Hampshire way"? New Orleans, like many poor urban areas in the South, had a score of crime and socio-economic problems long before the hurricane, but only the most knee-walking, insensitive lout would tie the misfortune of a massive human tragedy to New Orleans' "welfare class" -- especially on the basis of nothing more than what would have struck any sensate observer as the urban legend it turned out to be. This is exactly why you're not worth engaging in any true conversational format: Your gleeful credulity and your hysterical propagating of lies, your plain inability and unwillingness, to even feign legitimate cogitation, would make such an exercise no more fruitful than trying to teach a Labrador retriever to program TiVo. I hope you and your fellow "good Christians" who aggressively place partisanship over any pretense at compassion can sleep well at night. Contrary to what you think I've never been a "far left" type, but the more I'm exposed to your toxic brand of hatemongering, the more secure I am in voting a straight "D" ticket in the foreseeable future, particulars be damned.

Posted by: kemibe | August 15, 2007 1:56 PM

Let me guess...you guys are both tied into the Dr. Joan Bushwell's chimpanzee site? Believe or not believe, it's your choice. I stick by my story, although you certainly tried to do a good job making it say things I didn't say or feel. How many years have you spent ministering to the poor and abused? That's what I thought.

Posted by: Judy Paris | August 15, 2007 4:51 PM

I have nothing to do with the Dr. Joan Bushwell's site, I found it through your site (which is the only thing positive I found coming here). I don't believe it. I'm dumbstruck at how thoughtless and insensitive you are and then you turn around and act like your miss decency and manners.

If you really think that the majority of NH believes that:
1. they should condemn their neighbors for their sexual orientation. 2. Start jumping to conclusions about vandals and pointing the finger at peace organizations. 3. Start calling our NH Reps names and condemn them simply because their Democrats instead of addressing issues head on. 4. Believe that since our welfare system can and will be abused by a minority of recipients that all recipients should be punished. 5. If you oppose a war we entered into on blatant and confirmed lies your a traitor. Then your sadly mistaken.

As an IT Manager I see the stuff you have posted above spread around the email system all the time. Those types of emails are intended to target idiots who can't see past the sentence in front of their face and simply ask "is this true". Instead they think, "I knew it", "this is unbelievable", "wait till Marge hears about this", "I better tell everyone". It often brings to my mind the panic induced by Orwell's radio broadcast about martians invading in 1938. You would think we would have matured as a society since then. The perpetrators of such emails know social engineering well, they target the lemming's cognitive biases and make you do their bidding.

I pointed out the fact that the information you used to enforce your position was a complete fabrication because that seems to be the case of most of your sources -- why do you not ask "is this true". You know what you think is fact and true, so you will use anything to validate it, no matter where it comes from. If it turns out to be false, you continue to wag your tail and journey on not thinking any damage done.

As far as you guessing about who the other responders to your post are, after 10 seconds of sleuthing it was easy to find that one of them is most likely Kevin Beck who not only gave you a link back to Bushwell's site but gave you the name of his own website. I highly recommend that you spend a portion of your time learning how to do research before pounding on the keyboard.

I commend you on your work ministering to the poor and abused, we need more people empathetic towards those less fortunate. What we don't need are people enforcing hatred, fueling bigotry and repeating/spreading lies.

Posted by: David | August 17, 2007 2:46 PM

Where on earth did I say that all recipients of welfare should be "punished?" I grew up poor myself and while my hard-working mother could have received aid to dependent children, she chose not to receive it and we all went to bed hungry many nights. I would have gladly taken welfare as a child if it had been up to me. Many on welfare are helpless children and I support helping them in anyway possible, but they are not who I was talking about, now are they? I was making the point that some adults who are on welfare are quite capable of working, but do not want to work and have a "welfare mentality." If you're offended by that truth, so be it. You obviously missed the point of the poem whether it was completely factual or not. I opened with saying I wasn't sure of its facts, but it was used to make my point and you can over-react to it if you want. I have a perspective just like you, David, have a perspective. I'm entitled to my opinion and so are you. What I write from my personal experience is my "truth" or call it my "opinion" if you like. While you may think I'm enforcing "hatred" and "fueling bigotry" many times when people are confronted with "truth" it's a normal reaction to reject it if it doesn't line up with their belief system and attack the person who confronts them as a diversion from the real issue. And, I never said we should "condemn" our neigbors for their sexual orientation. I do think people need to understand that there is no scientific consensus that gay men are "born that way" and therefore it is not a civil rights issue. Apparently you need to read my other post: where it states: democrats want us to "believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural." That is indeed what they want us to believe isn't it? Also, many peace groups have done dispicable things to people and property while they talk about "peace" but wage their own war. And, how do you know what I think? Are you a mindreader? You're a traitor and commit treason if you provide aid and comfort to our enemies...giving terrorists a date certain for withdrawal from the Iraq war regardless of the circumstances as to why we're there, does provide America's enemies with aid and comfort. Telling America's Armed Services that they've already lost the war, makes our enemies the "winners" of the war, but it's naive to think that the war ends if we pull out tomorrow. Terrorists are already living here in the U.S. They will simply feel more emboldened and they still want to kill you, too, because you're the infidel as well. And yes, I call Carol Shea-Porter, Shea-Pompous because my "opinion" is that she is pompous and a liar and there's proof she's a liar. And I think Hodes is arrogant, so what?

Posted by: Judy Paris | August 20, 2007 7:38 AM

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